07-18-2012, 12:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-18-2012, 12:49 PM by ACMILAN1983.)
Geo, I think you make sense about Raiola, but essentially I was thinking more about how he works almost in partnership with clubs he likes, also acting as an agent for the club to get certain players. Either way, he's gone now and there's no point talking about his value.
As for your proposed signings, I don't think we'll sign all of them, even with the money from Ibra and Thiago Silva. I think Rolando we'll only get for 10m at the maximum. I say this because Porto always overvalue their players and he surely isn't worth 15m. We'll probably offer something stupid like 5m to try and bring their price down, if we get him.
Tasci is similar, 12m might be a little more than we want to spend, so we'll probably look to keep it down to around 10m. We'll get one defender to replace Thiago Silva, but we'll only get another if Mexes leaves (I don't think Bonera or Yepes will leave in any case). In this regard, we won't use the Thiago/Ibra money for this second purchase, but rather what we get from Mexes/Taiwo/Didac/Mesbah. I want to say, Rolando if he comes is likely to come with a salary under 2m if rumours are to be believed, while Tasci imo won't be too expensive either. Speaking of Tasci, while on transfermarkt I did notice he has suffered what seemed to be a lot of injuries.
In midfield, Sahin seems a good bet, but first lets see what our plan is (we may decide not to get a regista). A midfielder must be bought, as we're lacking a starter in front of defence, with Sahin seemingly best priced for us. Again, it won't be more than around 10m, which is similar to what Real bought him for. However, with him we have to act quickly, as Inter, Man Utd, Bayern and others are also linked to him. For his salary, I think he's still fairly unproven at the top level and is apparently on 2.5m net at Real, so don't expect a huge difference there as his season at Real is effectively a write off. There's a possibility of getting someone like Poli since Strasser got injured, but I am certain we will only look for a loan deal with option to buy, as we'll have Ambro in reserve and are pretty well covered in all other areas of midfield.
In attack, I expect one big signing. This will be Dzeko or Tevez or someone of this stature. Dzeko seems most realistic given he's not only a big name, but also a player who can fit well into our system. More importantly, if rumours are correct and Man City get Van Persie, they will be desperate to sell at least one of their forwards as they have too many (they would have at least RVP, Tevez, Dzeko, Aguero, Balotelli and Guidetti). This works in our favour, with us gaining an advantage in Dzeko negotiations. Given City bought Dzeko for around £30m (some say 27, others 32), I think we can get him for 20-25m euros. There are a few reasons for this, with the first being Man City always spend overinflated prices and so his true value will be less. Secondly, if they're desperate to sell, then we have the advantage in negotiations. Thirdly, Man City haven't seen the best of Dzeko since buying him, so he's not as hot as he was in Wolfsburg, reducing his market value. Fourth, there's not a huge market for him, as PSG have Ibra, Barca have Messi, Real with Ronaldo/Benzema/Higuain, Arsenal with Podolski/Giroud, Chelsea have Torres and probably Hulk etc. Only Italy seems a viable possibility for him, with us, Inter and Juve all looking at strikers. This leads me to the fifth and final point, which is the player himself. It's well known Dzeko is apparently a Milan fan with a Sheva jersey on the wall at his home in Bosnia. Therefore, if we can work out an agreement with the player then we'll have a massive advantage over all potential competitors, while Man City will be forced to deal primarily with us. This is also valuable with his salary. Man City pay him 8m net apparently, which I presume is too much for us. I think we could comfortably agree with him a salary of 6m net (I'm sure he's aware he won't get the same money he gets at City elsewhere), while if we're clever, I think we could even look to negotiate a salary closer to 4m net. Also, I read on goal.com we're expected to buy Dzeko for around 25m.
We might also get another attacker, but only after/if we sell one of Cassano or Robinho. This would probably be a squad player who doesn't cost anymore than Cassano or Robinho.
Realistically, I think we'll see a spending of around 40-45m on replacements for Ibra, Thiago Silva and a new midfielder. Any other spending will be directly from any other players sold. This means from the PSG sales, we can recoup around 20m directly, while we save mostly on salaries, as if you combine the net salaries of Tasci/Rolando, Sahin and Dzeko, then it's still not as much as Ibra alone.
As for your proposed signings, I don't think we'll sign all of them, even with the money from Ibra and Thiago Silva. I think Rolando we'll only get for 10m at the maximum. I say this because Porto always overvalue their players and he surely isn't worth 15m. We'll probably offer something stupid like 5m to try and bring their price down, if we get him.
Tasci is similar, 12m might be a little more than we want to spend, so we'll probably look to keep it down to around 10m. We'll get one defender to replace Thiago Silva, but we'll only get another if Mexes leaves (I don't think Bonera or Yepes will leave in any case). In this regard, we won't use the Thiago/Ibra money for this second purchase, but rather what we get from Mexes/Taiwo/Didac/Mesbah. I want to say, Rolando if he comes is likely to come with a salary under 2m if rumours are to be believed, while Tasci imo won't be too expensive either. Speaking of Tasci, while on transfermarkt I did notice he has suffered what seemed to be a lot of injuries.
In midfield, Sahin seems a good bet, but first lets see what our plan is (we may decide not to get a regista). A midfielder must be bought, as we're lacking a starter in front of defence, with Sahin seemingly best priced for us. Again, it won't be more than around 10m, which is similar to what Real bought him for. However, with him we have to act quickly, as Inter, Man Utd, Bayern and others are also linked to him. For his salary, I think he's still fairly unproven at the top level and is apparently on 2.5m net at Real, so don't expect a huge difference there as his season at Real is effectively a write off. There's a possibility of getting someone like Poli since Strasser got injured, but I am certain we will only look for a loan deal with option to buy, as we'll have Ambro in reserve and are pretty well covered in all other areas of midfield.
In attack, I expect one big signing. This will be Dzeko or Tevez or someone of this stature. Dzeko seems most realistic given he's not only a big name, but also a player who can fit well into our system. More importantly, if rumours are correct and Man City get Van Persie, they will be desperate to sell at least one of their forwards as they have too many (they would have at least RVP, Tevez, Dzeko, Aguero, Balotelli and Guidetti). This works in our favour, with us gaining an advantage in Dzeko negotiations. Given City bought Dzeko for around £30m (some say 27, others 32), I think we can get him for 20-25m euros. There are a few reasons for this, with the first being Man City always spend overinflated prices and so his true value will be less. Secondly, if they're desperate to sell, then we have the advantage in negotiations. Thirdly, Man City haven't seen the best of Dzeko since buying him, so he's not as hot as he was in Wolfsburg, reducing his market value. Fourth, there's not a huge market for him, as PSG have Ibra, Barca have Messi, Real with Ronaldo/Benzema/Higuain, Arsenal with Podolski/Giroud, Chelsea have Torres and probably Hulk etc. Only Italy seems a viable possibility for him, with us, Inter and Juve all looking at strikers. This leads me to the fifth and final point, which is the player himself. It's well known Dzeko is apparently a Milan fan with a Sheva jersey on the wall at his home in Bosnia. Therefore, if we can work out an agreement with the player then we'll have a massive advantage over all potential competitors, while Man City will be forced to deal primarily with us. This is also valuable with his salary. Man City pay him 8m net apparently, which I presume is too much for us. I think we could comfortably agree with him a salary of 6m net (I'm sure he's aware he won't get the same money he gets at City elsewhere), while if we're clever, I think we could even look to negotiate a salary closer to 4m net. Also, I read on goal.com we're expected to buy Dzeko for around 25m.
We might also get another attacker, but only after/if we sell one of Cassano or Robinho. This would probably be a squad player who doesn't cost anymore than Cassano or Robinho.
Realistically, I think we'll see a spending of around 40-45m on replacements for Ibra, Thiago Silva and a new midfielder. Any other spending will be directly from any other players sold. This means from the PSG sales, we can recoup around 20m directly, while we save mostly on salaries, as if you combine the net salaries of Tasci/Rolando, Sahin and Dzeko, then it's still not as much as Ibra alone.