06-06-2012, 10:42 AM
For nefremo who asked about Jetro Williams, but got limited responses (I presume most like me, know little of him):
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/euro-20...-left-back
New news regarding Acerbi too. The player again has reiterated a desire to join Milan. Meanwhile, one of Genoa's directors has come out to say they are closer to reaching an agreement with Chievo, then they'll see whether Milan can make a suitable economic offer for him. I know there's not a great deal of excitement surrounding this transfer (I'm sure given the choice, most would go for Dede, Ogbonna or even Astori), but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Acerbi turns out to be a great signing. I've seen his some of his performances for Chievo this season and looked at his strengths, where he has an imposing physique where he looks to read the game to win the ball before opponents get the run at him, he could work well in Allegri's system. He's also statistically been playing on
par with guys like Chiellini and Thiago Silva, which at a club like Chievo is quite astonishing. He needs to work on his passing which isn't as consistent as the very best defenders, although I can imagine this being partly as a result of the team he plays for.
lol, I thought the same, there's not much hope amongst Milan fans (not just here, but on all forums).
Regarding the hype around Destro, I think as with Borini both are solid strikers who work really hard, a quality appreciated in the modern game. I don't rate either particularly brilliantly, but at the same time it's hard to argue they aren't doing quite well. I think clubs need to give these guys a chance to let the grow, as otherwise you're stifling them and they will never reach the top. As you said, there's always a risk they might have peaked (Michael Owen is a good example), yet there's always a possibility of them growing into better players, as we've seen with C.Ronaldo. The thing is, if you don't gamble and take these bets on future prospects, you either stagnate or have a model which isn't really viable in modern times unless you're Man City or PSG.
Regarding the 3 points:
1) I agree, I think whenever a club invests in players, the player must fit in to the system. In this regard, Italy has always been a bit odd in my view, as managers often don't get a say regarding the mercato.
2) This is ideal, but not always possible. I mean, let's say as rumours suggest we sell one of Thiago Silva or Ibra, we sure can't replace them with someone who will on an individual level be an improvement. In this situation, a new system or variation must be worked out to get the best of the player taking the place of those sold.
3) I don't think this is a viable option. To compete at the highest level you cannot pay for present stars only. As I said before, this model is only viable for Man City or PSG, clubs who have insane backing. The only other way to do this is what we've done with Ibra, Cassano and Robinho, basically making deals for players currently having problems with their current club. However, even then we've still had to invest in emerging talents, such as Thiago Silva, Pato, El Shaarawy, Boateng and Abate or even Antonini, none of who were established stars when they came.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/euro-20...-left-back
New news regarding Acerbi too. The player again has reiterated a desire to join Milan. Meanwhile, one of Genoa's directors has come out to say they are closer to reaching an agreement with Chievo, then they'll see whether Milan can make a suitable economic offer for him. I know there's not a great deal of excitement surrounding this transfer (I'm sure given the choice, most would go for Dede, Ogbonna or even Astori), but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Acerbi turns out to be a great signing. I've seen his some of his performances for Chievo this season and looked at his strengths, where he has an imposing physique where he looks to read the game to win the ball before opponents get the run at him, he could work well in Allegri's system. He's also statistically been playing on
par with guys like Chiellini and Thiago Silva, which at a club like Chievo is quite astonishing. He needs to work on his passing which isn't as consistent as the very best defenders, although I can imagine this being partly as a result of the team he plays for.
(06-06-2012, 06:05 AM)GeoTav Wrote: A lot of very pessimistic posts nowadays (like if we ended at the 17th place and will fight to stay in Serie A next season !!). Glad to see the good ambiancy of the old MM back !!
lol, I thought the same, there's not much hope amongst Milan fans (not just here, but on all forums).
(06-06-2012, 09:19 AM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Will take your words for it.
For me though, I really don't buy into all these stuff about youth superstars.....b/c people often excuse and turn a blind eye on young players. For example, Destro, I seen him play and I think he is solid, but the hype on how a 21 yrs old scoring 12 goals(I think) in Serie A and wait till he gets older and more exp....he could become a 20+ goals scorer. While a 28 yrs old striker scoring 12 goals in Serie A...people won't label him a great striker rather just someone who is solid and good. The thing is, what if Destro is only a 12 goals Serie A striker and basically he reached his max at a young age already.
Point is, I think clubs, esp those with limited financial ability should really only get players who, 1. Fits into their current system. 2. Someone who is an improvement to the player he will replace. 3. Only pay for present talents and not potential and future talents.
Regarding the hype around Destro, I think as with Borini both are solid strikers who work really hard, a quality appreciated in the modern game. I don't rate either particularly brilliantly, but at the same time it's hard to argue they aren't doing quite well. I think clubs need to give these guys a chance to let the grow, as otherwise you're stifling them and they will never reach the top. As you said, there's always a risk they might have peaked (Michael Owen is a good example), yet there's always a possibility of them growing into better players, as we've seen with C.Ronaldo. The thing is, if you don't gamble and take these bets on future prospects, you either stagnate or have a model which isn't really viable in modern times unless you're Man City or PSG.
Regarding the 3 points:
1) I agree, I think whenever a club invests in players, the player must fit in to the system. In this regard, Italy has always been a bit odd in my view, as managers often don't get a say regarding the mercato.
2) This is ideal, but not always possible. I mean, let's say as rumours suggest we sell one of Thiago Silva or Ibra, we sure can't replace them with someone who will on an individual level be an improvement. In this situation, a new system or variation must be worked out to get the best of the player taking the place of those sold.
3) I don't think this is a viable option. To compete at the highest level you cannot pay for present stars only. As I said before, this model is only viable for Man City or PSG, clubs who have insane backing. The only other way to do this is what we've done with Ibra, Cassano and Robinho, basically making deals for players currently having problems with their current club. However, even then we've still had to invest in emerging talents, such as Thiago Silva, Pato, El Shaarawy, Boateng and Abate or even Antonini, none of who were established stars when they came.