(05-08-2012, 12:55 PM)abbeyleemania Wrote: @dejo
its enough to re-watch Milan-Atalanta game one more time and see Boateng's passes to ibra, Cassano, Muntari, Nocerino. His passes to ibra maybe was a bit bad, in general, he had 5-6 balls who could be assists. this is why im saying that he is improving. i can see something you couldnt see.
Btw, Boateng has 6 assists so far in Serie A. He had 3 assists last season, he already doubled his assist number in much less games.
Believe me, Fatih Terim knows football much better than you, just remember how he played Fiorentina. if im not mistaken, Aldo Serena or other expets calls him 3rd best Milan player after Silva and İbra. Bayern fans call him WC midfielder, in this case, i just question your football knowledge. it seems very little. Also your last paragraph shows it clearly.
Players needs to go, not ibra or Boateng. Finished champions should go or shouldnt earn more wages than he deserves. Even 1 m euros is too much for them. Offer 1 m euros to Ambrosini, Seedorf, Zambrotta, Gattuso. They already made great money thanks to Galliani. They should show how they care about Milan.
Sell ibra, sign Messi, change game plan. or wait we have Pato, who played all games and scored 30 goals without penalty. İbra scored with penalties? Who'll take penalties if he doesnt take them? Gattuso? Seedorf, Ambrosini? Nocerino? Robinho? Cassano? We even dont have a proper penalty kicker except him.
Dont sell İbra, sign WC midfielders and improve game plan. add creative midfield to it. Everyting is better.
What makes Milan ibra dependent? Firstly, Robinho, Cassano or Pato couldnt perform like they did last season. Thats first reason. Second reason is Allegri's midfield typee which consists of 2 runners and 1 destroyer, with lacking a true creative player. İbra doesnt get even enough support from wing backs. Maybe you dont know or notice, Antonini has 0 assists.
Drop quality in midfield.
His partners couldnt perform like they did.
His another partner at trequartista was Emanuelson.
He doesnt have support from wing backs. Abate lacks last touch and crossing, Antonini is weaker than him on offensive zone. in this case, Milan is not ibra dependent, İbra is only one who performed great. Dont mix things.
This is why peeps are saying that Milan is ibra dependent.
if İbra manage to make that goals, he deserves more respect, what would he do if he had great support from his partners, wing backs and creative midfield?
Who's our best scorer except İbra? Nocerino with 10 goals. İbra effect on his goals?
Dear abbeyleesomething
For a guy who uses bayern fans opinion when discussing about player you're very brave to question mine or anybodyelse's football knowledge. But since you started talking about my own knowledge of football I have every right to talk about yours. First you say "What makes Milan Ibra-pendent?" which means that you are agreeing with me that Milan's gameplan is built around Ibra, but at the very end of your post you are saying that I should't mix things because we are not Ibra pendent because Ibra is the only one who performed well. And just for the record I do respect Ibra and everything he's done with Milan although I hate his personality.
Boateng is a very good player, he's dynamic capable to score, to run, to do his defensive assignements but he is not a world class player. He can't be a world class player just because he played for Milan 2 seasons (I am including this one too). And his second season was marked by injuries and lack of forme, also he likes to go to parties which makes him one of high risk players. I don't want him to go because he brings quality to the team, but I strongly disagree with you that he is a WC player and that he can play a trequartista. If you want to listen Bayern fans instead of Milan fans that's your choice, and if you want to listen Fatih Terim who had a mediocre coaching career in Italy (last Milan coach fired during the season) instead of opinions from coaches like Capello or Lippi and even Ancelotti that's also your choice. BUT DON'T ACT LIKE YOU'RE THE SMARTEST GUY ON THE PLANET.
(05-08-2012, 01:28 PM)abbeyleemania Wrote: Cassano is static, not dynamic like Robinho. İbra needs his dynamism. Cassano is assitsman, very creative. He is not someone who can make 14-15 goals a season in rotation role.
Robinho scored 14 goals just in Serie A last season, in rotatioın role. While Cassano's best number is 14 goals in his carreer, with a starter role, in 33 games.
Conte got the best out of his players, i always see very agressive Juventus, their tacticall game, subs, how he treated his players, he has Plan B e.t.c.
i rate Allegri crap just because how he treats his players. just remember Aquilani. He returned from injury vs Arsenal.
Do you remember? Parma game. The score is 2-0. just tell me the minute Allegri entered Aquilani. (86 mins) The score was already 2-0 at 54th mins) The answer is there. He needs to make Aquilani ready for Barcelona games, He needs to give him playing time to regain his old self. What did Allegri do? Above all, he was always late his subs. Tell me one game, Allegri won with his subs? or his tacticall touch?
Aquilani was doing very good job before his injury, our midfield trio was much better, Aquilani had 6-7 asists at that time. Everyting was going well. Same goes for Robinho. Firstly, he always played Cassano, when he injured, he always played Pato. Robinho was replacing Pato at 70-76-78 mins, while Pato was performing bad. Allegri did nothing to get best out of Robinho. He treated him badly. When you see the assists number, Robinho is our best assist man this season. Cassano doesnt have tempo of him and his dynamisim. if you say that Milan should sell Robinho and make way for Cassano, you dont know nothing about football and dont watch it again.
Robinho needs to go, cuz he is bad finisher. Cassano is great finisher. He scored 24 goals every season. LOL. For a forward Robinho doesnt score enough. Cassano scores enough?
Regarding İbra's wages, tell me Juventus's 3 players wages, Vidal, Pirlo and Marcihiso. 3 players always played at starting line up wth continuity. Then tell me our midfielders wages? then compare their contributions to theirs side. My answer is there.
I agree thath Robinho played excellent and scored a lot of goals last season in rotation role, but this year he played like a handicaped goat. He did absolutely nothing. He could't score, I don't remenber when was the last time he dribbled past someone...It was obvious when Cassano was back how good he is. First match and he imediatly made an impact. Still Allegri decided to bench him in the next match instead of Robinho who was awfull this season. Just awfull.

