Summer mercato 2012

[ZvonimirBoban]

Great, now everyone could start blame me for a member temporarily stop posting. I said something and that's it, why it is taken differently. I hate to quote Balotelli, but why always me?

[ACMILAN1983]

The thing I don't get is, people are piss that Milan did not win the League title and at the same time they want Ibra out of MIlan. Considering Ibra scored or created 34(28G and 6A) of 72 Milan goals in the league, thats close to 50% of goals scored. Ibra should be untouchable.

Pls, don't say Pato will get healthy....b/c we have been saying that over the past 3 yrs. Don't compare him to Van Persie or any other strikers who got injured and came out stronger than ever. Simply b/c Van Persie and others injuries only involve one area of their body while Pato pretty much injured every part of both legs.
Robinho will not know how to score over the summer.
Thats why these two should be sold and replace by someone who can stay healthy and score goals.

I think this interview explains quite well the reasons why there is an argument to sell Ibra.

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=79979

Basically, Ibra's both good and bad for the side. Yes he's a leader, but he's also selfish rather than a team player. His attitude is horrible overall, given his temperament and it seems impossible to get him to play at a consistent level over the course of a season. He always has periods where he's untouchable and others where he's simply so bad that we'd be better off without him on the pitch and with just 10 men. He's also now 31 and has a gigantic contract at the club. Given our financial problems, is it really worth having any player with such a huge contract.

Problem is he's also a key reference point up front in our team. Questions must be raised that if he was sold, would we have enough funds remaining to get ourselves another player who can act as such a reference point.

It's impossible not to question Ibra's sale when there's so many different arguments surrounding him. I don't think we'll sell him and tbh I think Allegri should be commended on how he's managed Ibra since he joined Milan. This season has seen progress from last, and I pray Allegri manages to get the best Ibra all season next year.

Pato and Robinho are different cases and must be viewed differently. Pato's current market value can't be high, and it seems kind of pointless to sell him now at a depreciated value when we've already invested so much in him. We know his talent and there is hope under Meerseman that he will recover. I think the decision to basically write off this season to find the answers to his problems is the right one, as now the doctors will be focused on resolving his issues fully, rather than getting him physically able to play again (it's known that doctors in football are generally under pressure to get players back on the pitch, rather than treating injuries for permanent solutions).

Robinho is a different problem, as he's a great player but his finishing is costly. This has become more easily noticeable this season with his misses against Barca in CL. Our problem is that it might be difficult to get many offers for him, as right now only Santos are seriously interested and his market value can't be more than 15-20m (Santos doesn't want to spend though). I don't think any high profile side in Europe would be interested in him if I'm honest, as I struggle to think of a club that could use a player like him. I think our best bet might be to try and work something out with Santos to get some of their players (Ganso usually springs to mind, Neymar seems well beyond reach).

We need investment this summer now. Ibra and Gattuso have both called for it, but so did Ambro (last summer) and Maldini (2007) with little response.

Galliani is going to hold talks with those ten players whose contracts are expiring this summer. The outcome will indicate just how serious we are on the next mercato. I think somebody should open the poll about which player(s) you guys think should stay.

Yeah, sounds like a nice idea.

[Gabriel426]

Personally, Ibra's contract is not a problem, 1. He is responsible for almost 50% of Milan goals scored. 2. He is one of the top 10 attacking players and 20mil a year for someone like him is fair. After all, nobody wearing the Red and Black had scored over 25 league goals in a season for the past 20 yrs.

As for being consistent throughout the season. I don't think anyone can play at their highest level throughout an entire season. Like I mentioned in earlier post, other players in Milan must step up but beside Nocerino, nobody did.

I am for the argument that this might be a good time to sell him due to being the wrong side of 30. However, this will lead to another problem, who can Milan sign to replace him? As of now, Allegri's game plan is build around Ibra, he is the targetman/playmaker/scorer all in one. Boateng, Nocerino, and Muntari all play off him. The system is better with Cassano on the pitch, as he is also a playmaker. Now money aside, I think only Messi, Tevez and CR7 can replace Ibra in the system. Cavani can't do what Ibra did for Milan b/c Cavani needs through balls and crosses to score. Van Persie is a bit better but he is no Ibra. Gomez is in the same boat as Cavani.
Now even if Messi, Tevez and CR7 can come for free, their wages will be the same if not higher than Ibra.

I really don't want to repeat my point of view on Pato, as I made it pretty clear that he pretty much damaged all his muscle groups in both legs and instead of becoming Romario, he is the Brazilian Michael Owen.

[abbeyleemania]

Bayern fans want Boateng in their forums, Boateng, Kross and Basti would form a great midfield. One of their dreams is T.Silva. it would hurt less if we sell him to Bayern.

Both Boateng and Silva goes to Bayern.
Robinho goes to Santos.
İbra goes to Real Madrid because of his wages.
Who'll replace him? No matter what, we have finished champions, at least we wont go to Serie B.


İbra's wage is problem for our fans, i cant understand this logic. Zambrotta's, Flamini's, Van Bommel's, Ambrosini's, Gattuso's, Seeedorf's wages are not a problem but ibra earns 9 m euros a year but its a big problem. İbra atleast deserves his salary with 28 goals, 6 assists. What did Gattuso, Zambrotta, Flamini, Ambrosini, Van Bommel, Seedorf did to deserve their wages? if ibra leaves, Real or City or other will offer him same kind of salary. But yet Nobody will offer Seedorf 3 m euros a year, Gattuso 4 m euros a year, Flamini 5 m euros a year, Zambrotta 3.5 m euros a year, Van Bommel 3.5 m euros a year. Milan's problem is that, MGT, They cant manage Milan, they dont have a project, While Juve has a winning mentality, they always want to improve, They have a new project.

Berlusconi will say his words with transfer market, renew all finished players and sign 1 quality player on bosman to replace Aquilani, sign 3-4 crap players, make 40 squad players. then we are fine. With this kind of logic, Milan could only manage to win 2 scudetto in the next 10 years. if we are lucky. We only won 2 scudetto in the last 10 years.

if Galliani and Allegri had Juve's squad this year, they would finish the league 5th at most. Conte, Agnelli makes the difference. Like i said before, Conte made the difference to Allegri, Conte is a great coach, while Milan only lost points due to his mistakes. Did we win any game with his magic? Late subs, wrong choices, no plan B.

Did Milan win any game vs Udinese, Lazio, Napoli, İnter and Juventus? 1 game vs Udinese. wait, Both İsla and Di Natele injured. then they lost it because of it. We only manage to get 1 win vs them. This also shows how great coach Allegri is. Allegri is useless.

i hope you all got what i tried to mean about Nocerino after İnter game.

i really cant understand why you still want Robinho out, Robinho had 9-10 assits this season just in Serie A, he and Boateng needs creative midfield to perform better, his finishing is a prblem yet, if we get Tevez, better version of Robinho, we should let him go. But we shouldnt sell him if we dont replace him properly. El Shaarwy is not ready to step up.

Our fans has some problem. They bash our players. Boateng, İbra due to his wages, Robinho due to poor finishing.

Same kind of things happened last season, i discussed with a fan named CaRossonero. maybe you all remember that. '' We should sell ibra due to wages and we should depent on Pato'' '' Boateng is just a runner''

Do you remember what my responses are?

Pato can injury himself any time, so we cant depent on Pato. What Boateng makes is World class. im always asking myself why im always right.

Bayern fans says that Boateng is a WC midfield. A coach like Terim says that Boateng is best Milan player according to him. Boateng just needs to improve his passing and deep passes. He improved this season, he will be a lot better next season, we just need to avoid injuries he had.

[dejo]

Bayern fans want Boateng in their forums, Boateng, Kross and Basti would form a great midfield. One of their dreams is T.Silva. it would hurt less if we sell him to Bayern.

Both Boateng and Silva goes to Bayern.
Robinho goes to Santos.
İbra goes to Real Madrid because of his wages.
Who'll replace him? No matter what, we have finished champions, at least we wont go to Serie B.


İbra's wage is problem for our fans, i cant understand this logic. Zambrotta's, Flamini's, Van Bommel's, Ambrosini's, Gattuso's, Seeedorf's wages are not a problem but ibra earns 9 m euros a year but its a big problem. İbra atleast deserves his salary with 28 goals, 6 assists. What did Gattuso, Zambrotta, Flamini, Ambrosini, Van Bommel, Seedorf did to deserve their wages? if ibra leaves, Real or City or other will offer him same kind of salary. But yet Nobody will offer Seedorf 3 m euros a year, Gattuso 4 m euros a year, Flamini 5 m euros a year, Zambrotta 3.5 m euros a year, Van Bommel 3.5 m euros a year. Milan's problem is that, MGT, They cant manage Milan, they dont have a project, While Juve has a winning mentality, they always want to improve, They have a new project.

Berlusconi will say his words with transfer market, renew all finished players and sign 1 quality player on bosman to replace Aquilani, sign 3-4 crap players, make 40 squad players. then we are fine. With this kind of logic, Milan could only manage to win 2 scudetto in the next 10 years. if we are lucky. We only won 2 scudetto in the last 10 years.

if Galliani and Allegri had Juve's squad this year, they would finish the league 5th at most. Conte, Agnelli makes the difference. Like i said before, Conte made the difference to Allegri, Conte is a great coach, while Milan only lost points due to his mistakes. Did we win any game with his magic? Late subs, wrong choices, no plan B.

Did Milan win any game vs Udinese, Lazio, Napoli, İnter and Juventus? 1 game vs Udinese. wait, Both İsla and Di Natele injured. then they lost it because of it. We only manage to get 1 win vs them. This also shows how great coach Allegri is. Allegri is useless.

i hope you all got what i tried to mean about Nocerino after İnter game.

i really cant understand why you still want Robinho out, Robinho had 9-10 assits this season just in Serie A, he and Boateng needs creative midfield to perform better, his finishing is a prblem yet, if we get Tevez, better version of Robinho, we should let him go. But we shouldnt sell him if we dont replace him properly. El Shaarwy is not ready to step up.

Our fans has some problem. They bash our players. Boateng, İbra due to his wages, Robinho due to poor finishing.

Same kind of things happened last season, i discussed with a fan named CaRossonero. maybe you all remember that. '' We should sell ibra due to wages and we should depent on Pato'' '' Boateng is just a runner''

Do you remember what my responses are?

Pato can injury himself any time, so we cant depent on Pato. What Boateng makes is World class. im always asking myself why im always right.

Bayern fans says that Boateng is a WC midfield. A coach like Terim says that Boateng is best Milan player according to him. Boateng just needs to improve his passing and deep passes. He improved this season, he will be a lot better next season, we just need to avoid injuries he had.

First of all Bayern will never buy players like Silva or Boateng because they can produce equally good players like Kroos and Schweinsteiger for example

Boateng played only 13 matches this season so how can you tell that he is improving. He scored 5 goals total this season in serie A from which 3 of them came against Lecce, a team which is at least awful (I would say that they are rubbish). His best position is on the right side of midfield but somehow someway Allegri is putting him as our trequartista which is a huge mistake IMO because he lacks in passing and creativity to be a world class AMF, for me he isn't a world class player at least not yet. And I would never care what Fatih Terim says, he is a ridiculous coach who had a massive fortune to win Uefa cup with Galatasaray. That doesn't make him an expert...

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Personally, Ibra's contract is not a problem, 1. He is responsible for almost 50% of Milan goals scored. 2. He is one of the top 10 attacking players and 20mil a year for someone like him is fair. After all, nobody wearing the Red and Black had scored over 25 league goals in a season for the past 20 yrs.

As for being consistent throughout the season. I don't think anyone can play at their highest level throughout an entire season. Like I mentioned in earlier post, other players in Milan must step up but beside Nocerino, nobody did.

I am for the argument that this might be a good time to sell him due to being the wrong side of 30. However, this will lead to another problem, who can Milan sign to replace him? As of now, Allegri's game plan is build around Ibra, he is the targetman/playmaker/scorer all in one. Boateng, Nocerino, and Muntari all play off him. The system is better with Cassano on the pitch, as he is also a playmaker. Now money aside, I think only Messi, Tevez and CR7 can replace Ibra in the system. Cavani can't do what Ibra did for Milan b/c Cavani needs through balls and crosses to score. Van Persie is a bit better but he is no Ibra. Gomez is in the same boat as Cavani.
Now even if Messi, Tevez and CR7 can come for free, their wages will be the same if not higher than Ibra.

I really don't want to repeat my point of view on Pato, as I made it pretty clear that he pretty much damaged all his muscle groups in both legs and instead of becoming Romario, he is the Brazilian Michael Owen.

And how many goals came from a penalty kick? On paper his goals look pretty good but an analysis gives different picture...I wouldn't mind selling him and change our gameplan completely...we don't have to be Ibra-pendent

[abbeyleemania]

@dejo

its enough to re-watch Milan-Atalanta game one more time and see Boateng's passes to ibra, Cassano, Muntari, Nocerino. His passes to ibra maybe was a bit bad, in general, he had 5-6 balls who could be assists. this is why im saying that he is improving. i can see something you couldnt see.

Btw, Boateng has 6 assists so far in Serie A. He had 3 assists last season, he already doubled his assist number in much less games.

Believe me, Fatih Terim knows football much better than you, just remember how he played Fiorentina. if im not mistaken, Aldo Serena or other expets calls him 3rd best Milan player after Silva and İbra. Bayern fans call him WC midfielder, in this case, i just question your football knowledge. it seems very little. Also your last paragraph shows it clearly.

Players needs to go, not ibra or Boateng. Finished champions should go or shouldnt earn more wages than he deserves. Even 1 m euros is too much for them. Offer 1 m euros to Ambrosini, Seedorf, Zambrotta, Gattuso. They already made great money thanks to Galliani. They should show how they care about Milan.

Sell ibra, sign Messi, change game plan. or wait we have Pato, who played all games and scored 30 goals without penalty. İbra scored with penalties? Who'll take penalties if he doesnt take them? Gattuso? Seedorf, Ambrosini? Nocerino? Robinho? Cassano? We even dont have a proper penalty kicker except him.

Dont sell İbra, sign WC midfielders and improve game plan. add creative midfield to it. Everyting is better.

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What makes Milan ibra dependent? Firstly, Robinho, Cassano or Pato couldnt perform like they did last season. Thats first reason. Second reason is Allegri's midfield typee which consists of 2 runners and 1 destroyer, with lacking a true creative player. İbra doesnt get even enough support from wing backs. Maybe you dont know or notice, Antonini has 0 assists.

Drop quality in midfield.
His partners couldnt perform like they did.
His another partner at trequartista was Emanuelson.
He doesnt have support from wing backs. Abate lacks last touch and crossing, Antonini is weaker than him on offensive zone. in this case, Milan is not ibra dependent, İbra is only one who performed great. Dont mix things.

This is why peeps are saying that Milan is ibra dependent.

if İbra manage to make that goals, he deserves more respect, what would he do if he had great support from his partners, wing backs and creative midfield?

Who's our best scorer except İbra? Nocerino with 10 goals. İbra effect on his goals?

[ACMILAN1983]

http://www.football-italia.net/18564/sac...-need-time

Interesting points from Sacchi about Roma. Some of it, like how to build the squad applies to us though and is something I've alluded to of late (around the time I discussed moneyball).

Personally, Ibra's contract is not a problem, 1. He is responsible for almost 50% of Milan goals scored. 2. He is one of the top 10 attacking players and 20mil a year for someone like him is fair. After all, nobody wearing the Red and Black had scored over 25 league goals in a season for the past 20 yrs.

As for being consistent throughout the season. I don't think anyone can play at their highest level throughout an entire season. Like I mentioned in earlier post, other players in Milan must step up but beside Nocerino, nobody did.

I am for the argument that this might be a good time to sell him due to being the wrong side of 30. However, this will lead to another problem, who can Milan sign to replace him? As of now, Allegri's game plan is build around Ibra, he is the targetman/playmaker/scorer all in one. Boateng, Nocerino, and Muntari all play off him. The system is better with Cassano on the pitch, as he is also a playmaker. Now money aside, I think only Messi, Tevez and CR7 can replace Ibra in the system. Cavani can't do what Ibra did for Milan b/c Cavani needs through balls and crosses to score. Van Persie is a bit better but he is no Ibra. Gomez is in the same boat as Cavani.
Now even if Messi, Tevez and CR7 can come for free, their wages will be the same if not higher than Ibra.

I really don't want to repeat my point of view on Pato, as I made it pretty clear that he pretty much damaged all his muscle groups in both legs and instead of becoming Romario, he is the Brazilian Michael Owen.

Gabriel, I really don't want to go into the whole Ibra debate again, but my consistency issue is that he has phases where the team relies on him and others where he actually ruins the team play.

As I and you both said, the problem is who would take Ibra's place if we were to sell him.

Bayern fans want Boateng in their forums, Boateng, Kross and Basti would form a great midfield. One of their dreams is T.Silva. it would hurt less if we sell him to Bayern.

Both Boateng and Silva goes to Bayern.
Robinho goes to Santos.
İbra goes to Real Madrid because of his wages.
Who'll replace him? No matter what, we have finished champions, at least we wont go to Serie B.

İbra's wage is problem for our fans, i cant understand this logic. Zambrotta's, Flamini's, Van Bommel's, Ambrosini's, Gattuso's, Seeedorf's wages are not a problem but ibra earns 9 m euros a year but its a big problem. İbra atleast deserves his salary with 28 goals, 6 assists. What did Gattuso, Zambrotta, Flamini, Ambrosini, Van Bommel, Seedorf did to deserve their wages? if ibra leaves, Real or City or other will offer him same kind of salary. But yet Nobody will offer Seedorf 3 m euros a year, Gattuso 4 m euros a year, Flamini 5 m euros a year, Zambrotta 3.5 m euros a year, Van Bommel 3.5 m euros a year. Milan's problem is that, MGT, They cant manage Milan, they dont have a project, While Juve has a winning mentality, they always want to improve, They have a new project.

Berlusconi will say his words with transfer market, renew all finished players and sign 1 quality player on bosman to replace Aquilani, sign 3-4 crap players, make 40 squad players. then we are fine. With this kind of logic, Milan could only manage to win 2 scudetto in the next 10 years. if we are lucky. We only won 2 scudetto in the last 10 years.

if Galliani and Allegri had Juve's squad this year, they would finish the league 5th at most. Conte, Agnelli makes the difference. Like i said before, Conte made the difference to Allegri, Conte is a great coach, while Milan only lost points due to his mistakes. Did we win any game with his magic? Late subs, wrong choices, no plan B.

Did Milan win any game vs Udinese, Lazio, Napoli, İnter and Juventus? 1 game vs Udinese. wait, Both İsla and Di Natele injured. then they lost it because of it. We only manage to get 1 win vs them. This also shows how great coach Allegri is. Allegri is useless.

i hope you all got what i tried to mean about Nocerino after İnter game.

i really cant understand why you still want Robinho out, Robinho had 9-10 assits this season just in Serie A, he and Boateng needs creative midfield to perform better, his finishing is a prblem yet, if we get Tevez, better version of Robinho, we should let him go. But we shouldnt sell him if we dont replace him properly. El Shaarwy is not ready to step up.

Our fans has some problem. They bash our players. Boateng, İbra due to his wages, Robinho due to poor finishing.

Same kind of things happened last season, i discussed with a fan named CaRossonero. maybe you all remember that. '' We should sell ibra due to wages and we should depent on Pato'' '' Boateng is just a runner''

Do you remember what my responses are?

Pato can injury himself any time, so we cant depent on Pato. What Boateng makes is World class. im always asking myself why im always right.

Bayern fans says that Boateng is a WC midfield. A coach like Terim says that Boateng is best Milan player according to him. Boateng just needs to improve his passing and deep passes. He improved this season, he will be a lot better next season, we just need to avoid injuries he had.

What are you even talking about? Who cares who Bayern fans want and their opinions?

Ibra's wage is a problem for a club with financial problems. Just as the salaries of the others players you mentioned are (even if they are less than half of Ibra's).

As for Juve and Conte, good for them but you've just said random stuff without backing up your argument. All I really got from you is Allegri's crap and Conte's great, but no explanation as to why beyond Allegri makes mistakes and Conte doesn't (see my post in the Inter thread for examples where Allegri changed a game with his decisions during matches).

Robinho is expendable, and we already have a good alternative in Cassano. If Robinho leaves, it also doesn't mean sell him without someone coming in. Robinho's assist stats are ok but for a forward he's not scored enough. He's also made horrible mistakes in front of goal which are as costly as mistakes that Mexes or Bonera make in defence resulting in opponents scoring. If we want to improve, we can't afford this, especially in CL matches where a match can turn in an instance.

[abbeyleemania]

Cassano is static, not dynamic like Robinho. İbra needs his dynamism. Cassano is assitsman, very creative. He is not someone who can make 14-15 goals a season in rotation role.

Robinho scored 14 goals just in Serie A last season, in rotatioın role. While Cassano's best number is 14 goals in his carreer, with a starter role, in 33 games.

Conte got the best out of his players, i always see very agressive Juventus, their tacticall game, subs, how he treated his players, he has Plan B e.t.c.

i rate Allegri crap just because how he treats his players. just remember Aquilani. He returned from injury vs Arsenal.
Do you remember? Parma game. The score is 2-0. just tell me the minute Allegri entered Aquilani. (86 mins) The score was already 2-0 at 54th mins) The answer is there. He needs to make Aquilani ready for Barcelona games, He needs to give him playing time to regain his old self. What did Allegri do? Above all, he was always late his subs. Tell me one game, Allegri won with his subs? or his tacticall touch?

Aquilani was doing very good job before his injury, our midfield trio was much better, Aquilani had 6-7 asists at that time. Everyting was going well. Same goes for Robinho. Firstly, he always played Cassano, when he injured, he always played Pato. Robinho was replacing Pato at 70-76-78 mins, while Pato was performing bad. Allegri did nothing to get best out of Robinho. He treated him badly. When you see the assists number, Robinho is our best assist man this season. Cassano doesnt have tempo of him and his dynamisim. if you say that Milan should sell Robinho and make way for Cassano, you dont know nothing about football and dont watch it again.

Robinho needs to go, cuz he is bad finisher. Cassano is great finisher. He scored 24 goals every season. LOL. For a forward Robinho doesnt score enough. Cassano scores enough?

Regarding İbra's wages, tell me Juventus's 3 players wages, Vidal, Pirlo and Marcihiso. 3 players always played at starting line up wth continuity. Then tell me our midfielders wages? then compare their contributions to theirs side. My answer is there.

[BINHO]

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Good Post. I agree about Allegri putting Aqua in the game around 86 minute. He handles his players extremely poorly.

However, this post belongs in Allegri Thread. The same discussion is also going on in the Inter vs Milan Thread. People need to post in the proper Threads.

As for the Mercato, I am very upset about the Mr. X talk last year. I can't believe the Media let him get away with a lie saying that Mr. X was Aquilani. Everyone knows Mr. X can't be a Loan of an average, unwanted player from EPL. How could it be Aquilani? The media, the ultras, should have told Galliani to fuk off with those lies. Let him know he can't lie like that. Everyone pretended like it was true.... 1 year later he still made a comment about Aqua being our Mr. X. What the hell are people asleep?

[dejo]

@dejo

its enough to re-watch Milan-Atalanta game one more time and see Boateng's passes to ibra, Cassano, Muntari, Nocerino. His passes to ibra maybe was a bit bad, in general, he had 5-6 balls who could be assists. this is why im saying that he is improving. i can see something you couldnt see.

Btw, Boateng has 6 assists so far in Serie A. He had 3 assists last season, he already doubled his assist number in much less games.

Believe me, Fatih Terim knows football much better than you, just remember how he played Fiorentina. if im not mistaken, Aldo Serena or other expets calls him 3rd best Milan player after Silva and İbra. Bayern fans call him WC midfielder, in this case, i just question your football knowledge. it seems very little. Also your last paragraph shows it clearly.

Players needs to go, not ibra or Boateng. Finished champions should go or shouldnt earn more wages than he deserves. Even 1 m euros is too much for them. Offer 1 m euros to Ambrosini, Seedorf, Zambrotta, Gattuso. They already made great money thanks to Galliani. They should show how they care about Milan.

Sell ibra, sign Messi, change game plan. or wait we have Pato, who played all games and scored 30 goals without penalty. İbra scored with penalties? Who'll take penalties if he doesnt take them? Gattuso? Seedorf, Ambrosini? Nocerino? Robinho? Cassano? We even dont have a proper penalty kicker except him.

Dont sell İbra, sign WC midfielders and improve game plan. add creative midfield to it. Everyting is better.

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What makes Milan ibra dependent? Firstly, Robinho, Cassano or Pato couldnt perform like they did last season. Thats first reason. Second reason is Allegri's midfield typee which consists of 2 runners and 1 destroyer, with lacking a true creative player. İbra doesnt get even enough support from wing backs. Maybe you dont know or notice, Antonini has 0 assists.

Drop quality in midfield.
His partners couldnt perform like they did.
His another partner at trequartista was Emanuelson.
He doesnt have support from wing backs. Abate lacks last touch and crossing, Antonini is weaker than him on offensive zone. in this case, Milan is not ibra dependent, İbra is only one who performed great. Dont mix things.

This is why peeps are saying that Milan is ibra dependent.

if İbra manage to make that goals, he deserves more respect, what would he do if he had great support from his partners, wing backs and creative midfield?

Who's our best scorer except İbra? Nocerino with 10 goals. İbra effect on his goals?

Dear abbeyleesomething

For a guy who uses bayern fans opinion when discussing about player you're very brave to question mine or anybodyelse's football knowledge. But since you started talking about my own knowledge of football I have every right to talk about yours. First you say "What makes Milan Ibra-pendent?" which means that you are agreeing with me that Milan's gameplan is built around Ibra, but at the very end of your post you are saying that I should't mix things because we are not Ibra pendent because Ibra is the only one who performed well. And just for the record I do respect Ibra and everything he's done with Milan although I hate his personality.

Boateng is a very good player, he's dynamic capable to score, to run, to do his defensive assignements but he is not a world class player. He can't be a world class player just because he played for Milan 2 seasons (I am including this one too). And his second season was marked by injuries and lack of forme, also he likes to go to parties which makes him one of high risk players. I don't want him to go because he brings quality to the team, but I strongly disagree with you that he is a WC player and that he can play a trequartista. If you want to listen Bayern fans instead of Milan fans that's your choice, and if you want to listen Fatih Terim who had a mediocre coaching career in Italy (last Milan coach fired during the season) instead of opinions from coaches like Capello or Lippi and even Ancelotti that's also your choice. BUT DON'T ACT LIKE YOU'RE THE SMARTEST GUY ON THE PLANET.

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Cassano is static, not dynamic like Robinho. İbra needs his dynamism. Cassano is assitsman, very creative. He is not someone who can make 14-15 goals a season in rotation role.

Robinho scored 14 goals just in Serie A last season, in rotatioın role. While Cassano's best number is 14 goals in his carreer, with a starter role, in 33 games.

Conte got the best out of his players, i always see very agressive Juventus, their tacticall game, subs, how he treated his players, he has Plan B e.t.c.

i rate Allegri crap just because how he treats his players. just remember Aquilani. He returned from injury vs Arsenal.
Do you remember? Parma game. The score is 2-0. just tell me the minute Allegri entered Aquilani. (86 mins) The score was already 2-0 at 54th mins) The answer is there. He needs to make Aquilani ready for Barcelona games, He needs to give him playing time to regain his old self. What did Allegri do? Above all, he was always late his subs. Tell me one game, Allegri won with his subs? or his tacticall touch?

Aquilani was doing very good job before his injury, our midfield trio was much better, Aquilani had 6-7 asists at that time. Everyting was going well. Same goes for Robinho. Firstly, he always played Cassano, when he injured, he always played Pato. Robinho was replacing Pato at 70-76-78 mins, while Pato was performing bad. Allegri did nothing to get best out of Robinho. He treated him badly. When you see the assists number, Robinho is our best assist man this season. Cassano doesnt have tempo of him and his dynamisim. if you say that Milan should sell Robinho and make way for Cassano, you dont know nothing about football and dont watch it again.

Robinho needs to go, cuz he is bad finisher. Cassano is great finisher. He scored 24 goals every season. LOL. For a forward Robinho doesnt score enough. Cassano scores enough?

Regarding İbra's wages, tell me Juventus's 3 players wages, Vidal, Pirlo and Marcihiso. 3 players always played at starting line up wth continuity. Then tell me our midfielders wages? then compare their contributions to theirs side. My answer is there.

I agree thath Robinho played excellent and scored a lot of goals last season in rotation role, but this year he played like a handicaped goat. He did absolutely nothing. He could't score, I don't remenber when was the last time he dribbled past someone...It was obvious when Cassano was back how good he is. First match and he imediatly made an impact. Still Allegri decided to bench him in the next match instead of Robinho who was awfull this season. Just awfull.