Summer mercato 2021

[porcho]

Are you for real? If so, you alright buddy?

Transfer records of Porto
21-22: Ongoing (+300K)
20-21: +53 M
19-20: +24.7 M 
18-19: +39.5 M
17:18: +45.3 M

And you are saying their business model isnt working? Just a quick reminder, we are at -54.6 M right now.

I am for real. 
I'll say it again... "Without that money, and continued UCL, they'll end up broke in no time."

despite making that on the market they're towing the line between profits and losses. IN other words. They need that money to stay profitable. 1 year of no sales and they'll be running at a loss. Porto don't have someone like Elliot to wear losing tens of millions a year

[reza]

Never mind Porto, a team like Benfica has net positive of 350 million transfer business in just 5 years, yes 350 - lots more if you go further back. It is more than just gains and losses for clubs like that. There are clear back room issues like corruption (I am sure porcho agrees in Benfica's case :p ). A clean club having a net positive of that much in such a short time doesn't need 1% of Elliott's resources, cause even if ownership (socios or anybody) don't have liquidity a bank sees those numbers and will give a very favorable loan. If Milan owned by Elliott had those number we could crush PSG/Man City - club history would make it easier than them to get the players.

[Demonbanana]

If we ever getting around to building our own stadium or at least modernizing San Siro, I think we could compete on the market again as long as we have a good run of CL appearances too

Atalanta are good evidence of how smaller teams can have a good budget from CL and maximize sales.

[Demonbanana]

Man, our recent rumours are signing Illicic and bringing back Dalot.

Maldini needs to leave Ibiza asap!

[porcho]

Never mind Porto, a team like Benfica has net positive of 350 million transfer business in just 5 years, yes 350 - lots more if you go further back. It is more than just gains and losses for clubs like that. There are clear back room issues like corruption (I am sure porcho agrees in Benfica's case :p ). A clean club having a net positive of that much in such a short time doesn't need 1% of Elliott's resources, cause even if ownership (socios or anybody) don't have liquidity a bank sees those numbers and will give a very favorable loan. If Milan owned by Elliott had those number we could crush PSG/Man City -  club history would make it easier than them to get the players.

even ignoring corruption like a President stealing 100m from the club. That 350m is needed to keep them afloat.
That's the business model those teams have. competing in a weaker league helps that. MEans they realistically make do with most of the players they sign whether they explode and become profitable or not. 
there's also the added benefit of operating outside the club. eg. signing Joao Mario for "free" when Sporting had offered 5m for him. What club turns down money to send a player away for free instead unless there's some under the table deal.
That approach vs Sporting's approach of using youngsters is different. Should you have a year where you don't make those sales then you make a loss because of spending and wages. But a more conservative spending approach and using youth products in the team means a lean selling year won't hurt as much. 
Sporting's had their own issues with ex presidents and everything but is finally on track now. just taken time.

But this is why I want us to sign guys like Kaio Jorge. worst case we sell him in 12 months time for a small profit. Best case he explodes and we make a huge profit or keep him our first team. Either way, it's the approach I think we should be taking. We don't want to move to that "expecting income" approach because look at Inter. Look at where it got them. Great. They have a title... but at what cost?

[porcho]

If we ever getting around to building our own stadium or at least modernizing San Siro, I think we could compete on the market again as long as we have a good run of CL appearances too

Atalanta are good evidence of how smaller teams can have a good budget from CL and maximize sales.

AS stadium of our own would make a massive difference and would be another source of revenue. add a few years of UCL and profits of sales and we're back on top in a couple of seasons.

[Codazzi]

What if we play 352? I know we are not preparing ourselves for that, its just an hypothetical question.

Mike

Romagnoli(Gabbia)-Kjaer(Kalulu)-Tomori(Caldara)

Calabria(Conti)-Kessie(Bennacer)-Diaz(Krunic)-Tonali(Pobega)-Theo(Toure)

Giroud(Leao)-Zlatan(Rebic)

JPH and Sale can go on loan.

[Bennacer]

I think 3-5-2 its a real possibilty, and i think it fits our team better, especially if we dont get the perfect number 10. Our central midfield with Bennacer- Kessie- Tonali/Diaz/Pogeba will possibly dominate most midfields. And i like Theo in a more advanced position where he dont will be screwed defensively.

We dont have any great attacking wings in our team. Rebic and Saelemaekers is not really Salah and Mane, and we should look at formations that fits us better.

[Zio Fester]

True. And thats why we have a scouting staff. At least I hope we do.

Serginho and Duarte say hi

[Demonbanana]

BTW, I watched Japan smack France at the Olympics 4-0 () and two thing's I noticed:
1. Kalulu is trash! He should be loaned. I now see why he isn't Calabria's backup.

2. The French kid we're linked with now Kolo Muani got red carded when we where 3-0 up but at 10M, I can see why we had Kaio Jorge as first option.

Also, I think we're down to 5 Italians in the senior squad.
What happened to targets like Ricci and Scamacca? Frauds or too expensive? Both?