Loyal players nowadays are very difficult to find. Pato might be a loyal player, but that's still to be proven.
The motto "No player is bigger than the team" isn't just an excuse, at least for us, fans. A player should deserve to play for Milan, by working very very hard for the team, no matter how talented he is. Pato is a very talented footballer, and has the potential to be one of the best. But he's 22 now, and hasn't shown signs of remarkable improvements. Maybe it has to do with injuries, maybe because he doesn't have the mental traits needed for that, I'm not certain. If he continues like this, selling him might be great business. I'd rather have a less talented, but a more consistent and with a higher work-rate than him to be honest.
I am against selling the stars, but if a star wants to be bigger than the team, then he might as well GTFO, no matter what his name is and what he has done for the club.
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Herbert Kilpin
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This debate about Pato every time is always the same. Questionmarks over Pato's fitness is understandable, given how frequently the problems occur, and Galliani is totally right to hold a meeting with all key parties involved. Note though that Pato isn't involved in this meeting.
While Pato is injury prone, there's clearly a wider issue here as it's simply not normal to have this many injuries, and it's even more questionable that this hasn't been infrequent in the past few years, as back near the start of the year we suffered similarly and under Leo we had similar problems during that season. One theory could be that we don't have a young squad, but then that doesn't explain why most injured are in their 20's.
I don't think Galliani wants to sell Pato, he's a valuable player and to sell and replace him with someone of similar quality would incur a significant cost. Moreso, I think we need to get to the bottom of all these injuries (not just Pato, but the general problem), because this seems to be at the heart of the problem.
But it is a bit too optimistic to think that injuries can be solved if meetings are held. At times we have made fun of Milan Lab but one thing that is not very likely to help is when a non-doctor tries to do something about it.
(09-23-2011, 02:01 PM)reza Wrote: But it is a bit too optimistic to think that injuries can be solved if meetings are held. At times we have made fun of Milan Lab but one thing that is not very likely to help is when a non-doctor tries to do something about it.
It really depends on the outcome of the meeting. Obviously Galliani isn't a doctor and cannot solve the problems, but in his position he will want to know what's happening and what needs to be done to resolve it. If this means staff are to be held accountable and require disciplinary action or investment is required to improve this, then hopefully it will come out of this meeting.
sell him
bring back paloschi
(09-24-2011, 11:49 AM)sylrus Wrote: sell him
bring back paloschi
no offense, but that seems a worse solution.
I read this article on goal.com and while it's about Messi I found it insightful as to how we might be able to manage Pato.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editori...to-unleash
In the end, it's up to Pato's self discipline and desire, but I think if we can agree with him to micromanage his lifestyle, diet and fitness, then eventually he could potentially tap into his true potential.
Thanks for the article because I was wondering for the longest while why Messi used to get injured for so long every season..yet for the last 3 seasons or so he's pretty much NEVER been injured. We should probably do the same with Pato..if we think he has Messi potential of course. I know Hitmann doesn't think so 
Siamo a posto cosi.
I think the potential is definitely there guys, most definitely he can be very lethal... I just don't appreciate his work ethic and inconsistency for us.
11-18-2011, 09:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-18-2011, 09:22 PM by ElMago99.)
(11-18-2011, 01:53 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: I read this article on goal.com and while it's about Messi I found it insightful as to how we might be able to manage Pato.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editori...to-unleash
In the end, it's up to Pato's self discipline and desire, but I think if we can agree with him to micromanage his lifestyle, diet and fitness, then eventually he could potentially tap into his true potential.
We are not on the inside, so we don't know his lifestyle or what he eats. We do however obviously know who he screws.
However, Pato is taller, stronger, in fact as we say in America "Jacked", and seems to be very fit. But the idea of pulling hamstrings as much as he changes underwear is more than worrisome. Something needs to be changed about the way he's preparing immediately. We are also noticing other Milan Players injured a lot as well, and certainly not to the degree as Pato, but we've had 2-3 Injury crises in the past 2 seasons, and something needs to be rectified here.
As for troublemakers, it doesn't seem we have those, and our style of football and family atmosphere seems good. Ibrahimovic, perhaps our most talented player is the only one who sticks out a bit, but many seem to look up to him, as opposed to secretly disliking him. However, one never knows...
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