-Thiago Alcantara; quality player. i would like to have him at Milan, considering he doesnt have much chance at Barcelona,
also if they sign Fabregas... Thiago was free agent this year, i dont know if he renewed it.
-Danilo RB and RCM. Galliani and Allegri rates him high. La Gazzetta dello Sport labelled him as lo Zanetti del Santos... Santos doesnt want to sell their players until at least January...
-Fabregas; i think that he is closer to Barcelona than us. Like Laudisa said before, his price tag and wages (7 m euros a year) is too much.
-Hamsik; im saying that Hamsik could be a Milan player this summer. Our real target, Allegri rates him high But yet Napoli asks for 40 m euros...its too much. Hamsik wants to come to Milan, which makes the signing easier...
-Vidal; Leverkusen doesnt want to sell before Coppa America, as they have a chance to increasing the price tag. He is a quality box to box player. Bayern is after him as well. We can only sign him via Genoa, maybe Galliani and Preizosi talked about him yesterday.
-Kucka, Milan rates him, Milan wants him. Good 2 way midfielder for rotation role. He can improve by playing...
-Ganso; Santos doesnt want to sell until January. He wants to stay with them until January.
From the list, Thiago Alcantara, Vidal and Hamsik would be top for me.
About Hamsik, there are two things: Napoli would like to get Pastore to replace Hamsik from what I read (it's one of the rumours). It's why they ask for 40M for Hamsik, because Palermo ask for 40-50M for Pastore ...
If Napoli can negotiate with Palermo and decrease the price of Pastore, then, it will be easier for us to buy the player.
The second thing is that there are more and more rumours that Cassano will leave us and some claim that Napoli could be interested.
So if Napoli manages to pay less for Pastore (De Laurentis and Zamparini are friends if I'm not wrong) and if we manage to insert Cassano (I recall he almost cost us nothing) in the deal, it could be one of the best purchases of this summer ...
One should not speak ill of the dead.
So stop laughing at Juventus !
I would say teams like Napoli and Palermo can't afford Hamsik's and Pastore's 'next' contracts which will command multi-million salaries. Transfer fees are not as relevant in these cases. Both will play for bigger teams. My preference between the two is Pastore.
Sometime I wonders why Teams like Napoli, Arsenal, Barcelona and Palermo wont want to send Hamsik, Cesc, Messi and Pastore our way in exchange for Seedorf. Don't they know that he is a 4 time CL winner, someone who only performs once a month and always make friends with the coach/ manager.
(06-28-2011, 03:28 AM)brasileiro Wrote: Thats Libertadores, ZB...
It´s all started with a stupid Santos fan(son of a deputy) finding an way to the field and starting a fight with Penarol players. It was all Penarol players wanted, an excuse to do what they always do at Libertadores. Being sore losers and starts fights after the game...
People outside of South America have no idea of things that hapens at Libertadores. How many times Brazilians are spited, punched or receives rocks on the head? Just look at what hapened to Fluminense players in Argentine at this same Libertadores after they win the leg some months ago. They were cowardly attacked on the field by the Argies... I dream with day a big European team play in Argentine, Paraguai or Uruguai at Libertadores... Would love to see the reactions if Milan player received rocks on the head, spits, punches and nothing hapens. Libertadores is a jungle, an war and I hate how we Brazilians always receive this Clubs with open arms...
Btw, no one is talking about Leo(Santos veteran LB and far from a brauler) that was attacked by Penarol players and is now injured because of the cowardly agression he received... but Neymar is the easy target. If Neymar started the fight I would bash him hard(like I did with Gattuso), but he enter it to help his teammates and I respect him for that. Why I´m not seeing the same angry reaction when Neymar received 3 slaps on the face in the course of the game? Or that Penarol player grabing Ganso by the neck? Why?
Like with Robinho, I think there a lot of prejudice towards Neymar aroung the world. I just don´t want to talk about some of the reasons... From all that I heard from people there(I still know some people at the club) he´s a very good/ humble kid off the field and a great teammate in the changing room.
I can´t deny that his cockiness on the field(the way he likes to destroy defenders) makes some people mad, but like I did with Robinho some years ago, I will say again with Neymar: They don´t deserve the label people like to put on them. Was Robinho the cancer Spanish/English press love to label him? Still waiting for a report of his "cancer behavior" at Milan. Neymar is a great kid(until now) and I heard nothing from people in the know to make me believe on the contrary...
But thats all my opinion and people can believe in the reports they want...
Thanks for confirming, Brasileiro. But you have to admit, it's hard when you are being shown a photo of somebody kicking other man (which is on the ground, covering his head) and his friends are holding him, as 'self-defense' and 'innocent'. But, yeah, nowadays photos could always be misunderstood.
Btw I don't get it how 'Vidal could only come via Genoa' become a hit. Are there rules who say we could sign a non-EU player who is already in Italian leagues?
MILAN! MILAN! SOLO CON TE!
MILAN! MILAN! SEMPRE PER TE!
Yeah as far as I know you can sign a non EU player from an Italian side.
06-28-2011, 05:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-28-2011, 05:41 PM by brasileiro.)
(06-28-2011, 07:19 AM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Great stuff Brasileiro, can't believe that much happened without any report.
Really hope that Leo recover from injury.
About Neymar, I think people just want to put something negative about players like him in order to downplay their talents. Unless he do a Mario or Cassano, I don't think he is a cancer to his team.
Personally I rather have him than Pato, as his over all knowledge of the game is much better than Pato. Leo will be ok, Gabriel... just need to recover from the bruises. Thats a guy that doesn´t deserved a punch. But we all know(at least the ones that participated of big brawls with several people involved  ) that when it start, you better don´t fall to the groung or turn your back to someone... Leo got caught in a unfortunate situation.
(06-28-2011, 09:12 AM)GeoTav Wrote: (06-28-2011, 03:28 AM)brasileiro Wrote: People outside of South America have no idea of things that hapens at Libertadores. How many times Brazilians are spited, punched or receives rocks on the head? Just look at what hapened to Fluminense players in Argentine at this same Libertadores after they win the leg some months ago. They were cowardly attacked on the field by the Argies... I dream with day a big European team play in Argentine, Paraguai or Uruguai at Libertadores... Would love to see the reactions if Milan player received rocks on the head, spits, punches and nothing hapens. Libertadores is a jungle, an war and I hate how we Brazilians always receive this Clubs with open arms...
In France, some channels show some of the games or sometimes show some highlights here and there ... I already watched that two or three times, and something disturbed me in these games each time: the crazy ambiancy in the stadiums. It was strange, when you're used to watch Italian games (empty stadiums  ) and CL games (good ambiancy most of the time), watching an important Libertadores game will disturb you for sure !!
Why isn't there any punishment like a disqualification for the following Libertadores when something like that happens by the way ?
PS: Eurosport.fr made two articles about the 2 games, but in the second article, they almost didn't write about the fight, they just wrote it lasted 2 minutes and that Santos players were then able to celebrate their win ... They put a video online some days after but I didn't watch it. Geo, the atmosphere is really amazing at Libertadores. The first leg at the Uruguai was a show...until they became frustrated by the result and started to throw everything at Santos fans. To be fair, some of those Santos Ultras aren´t choir boys too...
Regarding punishment, it happens(not happen) at all levels, not only at Libertadores. It all start with the CONMEBOL and his president, Nicolás Leoz. If you think Blatter knows about mafia, well... Conmebol headquarters it´s in Paraguay(President, too) and it´s not coincidence their stadiums are the most dangerous to play nowadays. They can do what they want and maybe(I said maybe) they receive an one month "punishment"(they can still play at 100km of the stadium).
Conmebol is a joke, the president is a joke, their punishment is a joke(theres no disqualification) and I have zero hope it ever change. And this is nothing new, thats the reason Santos at Pelé era(and several Brazilians teams) opted to withdraw Libertadores and goes to Europe and stay 4 months playing against Milan, Inter, Barcelona, Benfica in the past.
And the press here still don´t understand why every young Brazilian talent want to go to Europe and play in Champions League...
(06-28-2011, 04:20 PM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote: Thanks for confirming, Brasileiro. But you have to admit, it's hard when you are being shown a photo of somebody kicking other man (which is on the ground, covering his head) and his friends are holding him, as 'self-defense' and 'innocent'. But, yeah, nowadays photos could always be misunderstood.
Btw I don't get it how 'Vidal could only come via Genoa' become a hit. Are there rules who say we could sign a non-EU player who is already in Italian leagues? No problem, ZB...
I´m not saying Neymar can kick a guy on the floor, but as someone who has been involved at this type of game/fight(I´m not proud of it) in the past, once it starts it´s like an war, you see nothing and only want to keep yourself awake(alive)... you hit the enemy in front of you without to think twice. Plus, if I´m not wrong this was the guythat hit Leo...
One thing is for sure, every people that I know in Santos say he´s a good kid off the field. Even being adulated 24/7 by everyone... Thats not easy for a 19 yo millionarie that only hear yes. Props to his father and mother...
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