Summer Mercato 2011
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It's extremely quiet on here today. Anyway, Hamsik feels joining Milan would be a step up for his career, and wants to start winning trophies.

Ganso is looking more and more likely to join later rather than sooner, with Danilo now the top target from Santos.

Also, Pato has confirmed he wants to become a Milan legend and would only leave if the club get tired of him. Normally, these sorts of words mean little, but with Pato I genuinely feel we could see him remain for a long time if him and Barbara become serious.
The Hamsik news seems pretty major assuming the quotes can be trusted. Hamsik this summer, Ganso in January. That's a pretty major overhaul of our midfield. Especially when you add Boatend and Bommel from last year.

I hope it happens. Question is, can Hamsik and Ganso play together? I only saw Ganso play once (in the libertadores final), so I have no real insight on how effective having both players will be. Anyone who is familiar with both players want to comment?
(06-27-2011, 01:03 AM)abbeyleemania Wrote: i really cant understand the hypee on Spanish teams. Mata, Martinez are the Spanish senior team players. Striker Adrian Lopez is 23 years old, Ruiz and Vila are 22 years old. Mata 23 years old, Martinez is 22...

off course we cant expect them to play like u21 team.

However Thiago Alcântara is great youngster. he is a quality player. i'd like to have him at Milan if we have a chance for him.

what i really can't understand is why some people always see praise as "hype"...anytime someone here says something good about another team (nowadays it's mainly Barca & Spain) he is "hyping" them....

even with players in their 22 or 23...if you can find another nation that can produce that level of football that Spain showed in the final with 22 & 23 yr-old i would love to watch that.

I mean we are struggling to find just 1 young italian player to buy for the future and here are Spain affording to throw Bojan, Jeffren, & Capel on the bench...i think that is impressive and other nations can learn a thing or two about how that happened....and i think Milan are actually learning...let's now hope we can produce similar results soon.

Players i mentioned before could be worth investing in, however, it will be difficult to compete for spanish youth with Barca in the picture (cannot count Real because we all know they won't buy a young player who cannot sell any shirts)

Anyway.....what position exactly does Danilo play?
(06-27-2011, 07:09 PM)LebRN Wrote:
(06-27-2011, 01:03 AM)abbeyleemania Wrote: i really cant understand the hypee on Spanish teams. Mata, Martinez are the Spanish senior team players. Striker Adrian Lopez is 23 years old, Ruiz and Vila are 22 years old. Mata 23 years old, Martinez is 22...

off course we cant expect them to play like u21 team.

However Thiago Alcântara is great youngster. he is a quality player. i'd like to have him at Milan if we have a chance for him.

what i really can't understand is why some people always see praise as "hype"...anytime someone here says something good about another team (nowadays it's mainly Barca & Spain) he is "hyping" them....

even with players in their 22 or 23...if you can find another nation that can produce that level of football that Spain showed in the final with 22 & 23 yr-old i would love to watch that.

I mean we are struggling to find just 1 young italian player to buy for the future and here are Spain affording to throw Bojan, Jeffren, & Capel on the bench...i think that is impressive and other nations can learn a thing or two about how that happened....and i think Milan are actually learning...let's now hope we can produce similar results soon.

Players i mentioned before could be worth investing in, however, it will be difficult to compete for spanish youth with Barca in the picture (cannot count Real because we all know they won't buy a young player who cannot sell any shirts)

Anyway.....what position exactly does Danilo play?

Spain currently has 14 players in the Top 100 in the World in Tennis, including the best player in the world (Rafael Nadal).

Spain has Alberto Contador who's won a few Tour de France's in past few years.

Lastly, Spain has dominated the world in Soccer, on club & International Level. Obviously they're doing something right with their athletes, and I want to know what it is. Other European countries and especially the United States are just left at their way side.
(06-27-2011, 10:22 PM)ElMago99 Wrote: Spain currently has 14 players in the Top 100 in the World in Tennis, including the best player in the world (Rafael Nadal).

Spain has Alberto Contador who's won a few Tour de France's in past few years.

Lastly, Spain has dominated the world in Soccer, on club & International Level. Obviously they're doing something right with their athletes, and I want to know what it is. Other European countries and especially the United States are just left at their way side.

You mean the guy who ate a steak with some "doping products" in it without knowing it ?! Big Grin And of course, the guy who was as a consequence a proven doped athlete but his federation decided not to suspend him ...

Anyway, Germany is more impressive than Spain IMO ... A lot of what should have been the players of their U21 team were sent in the last WC. And given their performance in South Africa, it's more impressive than winning a U21 competition.
(06-27-2011, 05:16 PM)russo-neri Wrote: The Hamsik news seems pretty major assuming the quotes can be trusted. Hamsik this summer, Ganso in January. That's a pretty major overhaul of our midfield. Especially when you add Boatend and Bommel from last year.

I hope it happens. Question is, can Hamsik and Ganso play together? I only saw Ganso play once (in the libertadores final), so I have no real insight on how effective having both players will be. Anyone who is familiar with both players want to comment?

Ganso is a typical AM if I'm not wrong. He is at his best when he plays behind the strikers.

Hamsik can play there, but he can also play in the midfield. Hamsik is a more talented version of Boateng. Just imagine the kind of energy in our midfield with both Hamsik and Boateng playing ... Would be amazing !!

I think the following midfield would be possible and even very good:

Ganso
Hamsik - Boateng
DM (MVB, Ambro, Flamini, whoever else)
One should not speak ill of the dead.
So stop laughing at Juventus !
(06-23-2011, 01:58 PM)ZvonimirBoban Wrote:
(06-23-2011, 01:39 PM)abbeyleemania Wrote: Penarol players attacked badly to Santos's. i saw Neymar kicked someone as well.

Btw Rudi Voller confirmed our 10 m euros offer for Vidal. he would be great signing for us.

i want him cuz he is fighter typee of player, who can put pressure on rival players, his pressing...His tackling and passing is good. he can dribble, he is dynamic, he can score goals, he is fast, strong and tecnique. He is 24 years old. This make him an important player. This is why he is complete midfielder.

We need this kind of players to fight for CL...

I never liked Neymar with all his attitudes, maybe Brasileiro can confirm to all of us here what kind of person Neymar is.

About Vidal, source please? I am very very very interested, btw anybody knows if he has EU passport or not? Because if I remember correctly he played for Leverkusen only since 2009 or 2008.
Thats Libertadores, ZB...

It´s all started with a stupid Santos fan(son of a deputy) finding an way to the field and starting a fight with Penarol players. It was all Penarol players wanted, an excuse to do what they always do at Libertadores. Being sore losers and starts fights after the game...

People outside of South America have no idea of things that hapens at Libertadores. How many times Brazilians are spited, punched or receives rocks on the head? Just look at what hapened to Fluminense players in Argentine at this same Libertadores after they win the leg some months ago. They were cowardly attacked on the field by the Argies... I dream with day a big European team play in Argentine, Paraguai or Uruguai at Libertadores... Would love to see the reactions if Milan player received rocks on the head, spits, punches and nothing hapens. Libertadores is a jungle, an war and I hate how we Brazilians always receive these Clubs with open arms...

Btw, no one is talking about Leo(Santos veteran LB and far from a brauler) that was attacked by Penarol players and is now injured because of the cowardly agression he received... but Neymar is the easy target. If Neymar started the fight I would bash him hard(like I did with Gattuso), but he enter it to help his teammates and I respect him for that. Why I´m not seeing the same angry reaction when Neymar received 3 slaps on the face in the course of the game? Or that Penarol player grabing Ganso by the neck? Why?

Like with Robinho, I think there a lot of prejudice towards Neymar aroung the world. I just don´t want to talk about some of the reasons... From all that I heard from people there(I still know some people at the club) he´s a very good/ humble kid off the field and a great teammate in the changing room.

I can´t deny that his cockiness on the field(the way he likes to destroy defenders) makes some people mad, but like I did with Robinho some years ago, I will say again with Neymar: They don´t deserve the label people like to put on them. Was Robinho the cancer Spanish/English press love to label him? Still waiting for a report of his "cancer behavior" at Milan. Neymar is a great kid(until now) and I heard nothing from people in the know to make me believe on the contrary...

But thats all my opinion and people can believe in the reports they want...

Great stuff Brasileiro, can't believe that much happened without any report.
Really hope that Leo recover from injury.

About Neymar, I think people just want to put something negative about players like him in order to downplay their talents. Unless he do a Mario or Cassano, I don't think he is a cancer to his team.
Personally I rather have him than Pato, as his over all knowledge of the game is much better than Pato.
(06-28-2011, 03:28 AM)brasileiro Wrote: People outside of South America have no idea of things that hapens at Libertadores. How many times Brazilians are spited, punched or receives rocks on the head? Just look at what hapened to Fluminense players in Argentine at this same Libertadores after they win the leg some months ago. They were cowardly attacked on the field by the Argies... I dream with day a big European team play in Argentine, Paraguai or Uruguai at Libertadores... Would love to see the reactions if Milan player received rocks on the head, spits, punches and nothing hapens. Libertadores is a jungle, an war and I hate how we Brazilians always receive this Clubs with open arms...

In France, some channels show some of the games or sometimes show some highlights here and there ... I already watched that two or three times, and something disturbed me in these games each time: the crazy ambiancy in the stadiums. It was strange, when you're used to watch Italian games (empty stadiums Big Grin) and CL games (good ambiancy most of the time), watching an important Libertadores game will disturb you for sure !!

Why isn't there any punishment like a disqualification for the following Libertadores when something like that happens by the way ?

PS: Eurosport.fr made two articles about the 2 games, but in the second article, they almost didn't write about the fight, they just wrote it lasted 2 minutes and that Santos players were then able to celebrate their win ... They put a video online some days after but I didn't watch it.
One should not speak ill of the dead.
So stop laughing at Juventus !
I'm in the proccess of writing a song called , wake me up when August ends...Green day won't be happy.
Man oh man is this mercato boring , I'd even like to read a B.S story.
I'm presuming they upper Milan MGT are working on a few midfielders.