Gustavo Gomez
#21
(08-06-2016, 09:34 PM)WCmilan Wrote: Yea Dev is right. We'll certainly be able to spend more than the rest of serie a come January onwards, but this summer we'll only have 15mln euros to play with right away. The other 85mln euros will be paid in 35 days, which is after the mercato is closed. I'm sure this wouldn't pose problems for most teams on negotiation, couldn't we just sign a contract that's a loan until the 35 day period is up then we pay? It wont be as easy as having the money ready to spend, but it shouldn't pose massive problems for our mercato

The 85mil will be paid WITHIN 35 days, so it may actually be transferred after 20 days, or 25, or 10 or whatever. Also, just like any other transaction in business, I would imagine the money in football transfers isn't paid right away either. Terms may be "net 30", or "payable" by a certain date. I'm talking from a general business perspective here, but since football is a business as well, I don't think when a player is transferred, the money is transferred immediately either. It takes time and usually clubs will have multiple days/weeks/months to pay the sum just like a business would pay a supplier for materials or labor for example.

What I'm trying to say is, as long as we are 100% SURE 85 mil is coming by September 10th the latest (and it's designated for the market), than we can easily make deals with that money now, even though we don't technically have it in Milan's accounts yet. At least, that's the way things work in other "normal" businesses.
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#22
nefremo I get what you're saying and theoretically it's true, but there is no certainty at this point. It's being said even the 15m down payment already made has already been used to bring in Gomez and Lapadula (no one seems sure if this is actually the case), but who knows if that 85m is for the market. The official statement as it stands is Finninvest say that payment is down as an initial commitment to the sale. That to me reads this money is the initial 100m out of the 740m to be paid to buy the club, not the additional investment due for the market.

Also, if you look from the perspective of the Chinese buyers, would you be prepared to give 100m to this market knowing that Galliani is running it? If it was me I wouldn't be prepared to give anything to Galliani, I'd rather wait until January when I know it's my management using the money.

I'm aware we're off topic, but I think we need to curb expectations this market.
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#23
I'm not disagreeing, but the fact that we don't know what that 100mil is significant. As far as we know, that 100mil is part of a "deposit" as its been described by many. Does the deposit than go into the general sale sum like you said, or is it part of the initial 350 mil that we keep hearing about.

About Galliani, I don't think it's a problem for him to run things as long as you tell him what to do. Don't let him choose the players. Just tell him what player he needs to sign. Simple as thathat if you ask me.
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#24
Question is who tells him? Technically the Chinese will have no authority until December until the deal is final, Fassone won't assume his role until then either and Finninvest have no interest in managing Milan. The Chinese may as well wait and use the time to plan
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#25
I think the Chinese have a lot more authority than we think. If Gancikoff had that much authority (to block the market, say yes/no to players, choose Montella) without ANYTHING signed......imagine how much authority these "new" people have with an actual agreement that's signed.
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#26
Or maybe the Chinese will listen to the coach and his requirements. Afterall, who knows better than the coach. Perhaps with Chinese influence, we can finally have a market where the coach gets what he wants.
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#27
(08-07-2016, 09:19 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: Question is who tells him? Technically the Chinese will have no authority until December until the deal is final, Fassone won't assume his role until then either and Finninvest have no interest in managing Milan. The Chinese may as well wait and use the time to plan

That's one of my concerns as well.
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#28
nefremo there's a lot of ifs about how much control the Chinese could have. I get what you're saying, but I want to understand the situation before getting too hopeful about it.

Somedevil, I think Galliani is trying to meet the requests of Montella, given the players targeted or coming in (Musacchio, Gomez, Cuadrado and Badelj all being Montella's requests). I'm of the opinion that a coach should be listened to, but overall the decisions need to come from the management as they should be thinking of short, medium and long term goals, whereas coaches tend to think of short term more than anything. Also, management should have an understanding of those that need relying on when coaches sometimes may not understand the importance of certain individuals. I'm think of Pirlo leaving under Allegri in this case.
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#29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxGq1xu7Y54

He seems like a player that is smart and thinks fast and he feels quite strong. He isn't the tallest of types though, which is generally bad for corner kicks.

I want to see him in the red and black A$AP. For all we know, he could be the next Thiago Silva.... (no kidding). But he could also be a new Jherson Vergara. The fact that Montella has been chasing him for this long is hopeful though.

Just look at what Napoli got out of koulibaly. Or what we got out of Bonaventura.
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#30
A reasonable read on our last signing

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26577...tavo-gomez?
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