05-30-2011, 11:36 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-30-2011, 11:37 AM by Jay Crisp.)
(05-30-2011, 11:05 AM)Dha Brain Wrote: Bastian huh ? I love that Idea hes a super player great strength power , It reminds me of oliver bierhoff those times can come back fellas you'll see : ) , how about cassano & 10 mill for montolivo ? I like ! think about how solid of a midfield we would have ? , If real madrid could't get de rossi why us ? , only advantage we're italian hehe but I think de rossi , bastian , bale , montolivo are more than possible & besides some big name striker our strenght should come from midfield not strikers ! , we're not that far to win the uefa cl again , & i hope to god davide astori returns !! ,
----------- Abbiati , Amelia ------
Abate ---- Nesta --- T.Silva ----- Astori ( I hope ! )
------Van Bommel ----- Montolivo ---- Bastian / De Rossi / Asamoah ( please no ) -----
-------------------------- Boateng / Seedorf / Merkel ----------------------------------------
Pato ------------------------------------------- Paloschi / Pippo / Robinho / Inzaghi / Verdi : ) /
bye Oddo , Rino ( sad but true ) , Ibra , Binho ? ,
Why would you put Astori a CB at LB ? and Ibra contributed to either scoring or setting up almost 40 goal's this season , If you can find someone younger that will do that by all mean's do , and someone that will agree to join Milan.
Also Robinho proved himself to be a great player and asset for us this season , he scored (although finishing at times was bad) he created he tracked back and played for the team rather than himself , no partying no stupid stories model professional.
And Cassano + 10 million for Montolivo who is a good player but not worth that much and is in the last year of his contract.
Maybe it's early in the day for me , but Schweinsteiger reminds you of Bierhoff ??? unless you mean because they are both German.
i herd astori can play as a wideback ? , correct me if im wrong no problem & yeah because they're german too hehe , also we'd be real strong & physical , also check footballpress.net might be bullshhhh , but i would like bastian because he's real strong
05-30-2011, 12:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-30-2011, 12:25 PM by Pato Milan.)
05-30-2011, 12:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-30-2011, 12:48 PM by abbeyleemania.)
(05-30-2011, 11:05 AM)Dha Brain Wrote: Bastian huh ? I love that Idea hes a super player great strength power , It reminds me of oliver bierhoff those times can come back fellas you'll see : ) , how about cassano & 10 mill for montolivo ? I like ! think about how solid of a midfield we would have ? , If real madrid could't get de rossi why us ? , only advantage we're italian hehe but I think de rossi , bastian , bale , montolivo are more than possible & besides some big name striker our strenght should come from midfield not strikers ! , we're not that far to win the uefa cl again , & i hope to god davide astori returns !! ,
----------- Abbiati , Amelia ------
Abate ---- Nesta --- T.Silva ----- Astori ( I hope ! )
------Van Bommel ----- Montolivo ---- Bastian / De Rossi / Asamoah ( please no ) -----
-------------------------- Boateng / Seedorf / Merkel ----------------------------------------
Pato ------------------------------------------- Paloschi / Pippo / Robinho / Inzaghi / Verdi : ) /
bye Oddo , Rino ( sad but true ) , Ibra , Binho ? ,
You destroyed scudetto winner team, finally had a team who can at most fight for a CL place...
10 m euros plus Cassano for Montolivo whos contract ends in 1 year... You must be kidding...i'd not swap Cassano for Montolivo...
Regarding ibra,i always said here that we cant depent on Pato, as he is prone to injuries. He was match winner vs inter,was deadly vs Fiorentina, then he injured vs Samp...then he comes back. he played vs Palermo, Coppa italia, Cagliari league game then he injured again vs Udinese...
Pato showed us that we cant depent on him...
(05-30-2011, 12:24 PM)Pato Milan Wrote: http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=53614
I would be happy with either or both... 
i'd rather to have Lucas...Cheaper, i like his playing style...
Berlu said that we wont sign Hamsik...He firstly promised a big signings, then he said that he is bandiera of Napoli... All big names are bandiera of Some team, we cant sign any big name with this logic...
Napoli doesnt want to sell, Berlusconi said that we wont sign him and however Hamsik wants to move...
Nesta was the king of Lazio, was more bandiera than Hamsik for Napoli but we signed him...He was super great signing...
Regarding Mercato, firstly, Lucas would be nice investment for trequartista position. Boateng as first choice, Lucas as his vice...(Rui Costa-Kaka)
Then focusing on midfield trio...Asamoah is quality player B2B midfielder, he will definetely will add important elements to our first 11, as he is strong, atletic and skilled. 2 way midfielder. Off course he has some weakness, as he lacks last touch and finishing...
Hernanes has last touch and finishing as well... Passing, pressing, keeping the ball, skills...he is the most complete CM...
Hamsik, 2 way midfielder, dynamic, skilled, last touch and finishing e.t.c. Both of Hernanes and Hamsik will add more to our midfield trio..
Then we can focus on players who are promising and can be important element for our squad in short term... Witsel, Nainggolan kind of players...
Lucas, Hernanes or Hamsik, Asamoah plus Nainngolan if Rino leaves...
That would be perfect mercato...
(05-30-2011, 11:05 AM)Dha Brain Wrote: Bastian huh ? I love that Idea hes a super player great strength power , It reminds me of oliver bierhoff those times can come back fellas you'll see : ) , how about cassano & 10 mill for montolivo ? I like ! think about how solid of a midfield we would have ? , If real madrid could't get de rossi why us ? , only advantage we're italian hehe but I think de rossi , bastian , bale , montolivo are more than possible & besides some big name striker our strenght should come from midfield not strikers ! , we're not that far to win the uefa cl again , & i hope to god davide astori returns !! ,
----------- Abbiati , Amelia ------
Abate ---- Nesta --- T.Silva ----- Astori ( I hope ! )
------Van Bommel ----- Montolivo ---- Bastian / De Rossi / Asamoah ( please no ) -----
-------------------------- Boateng / Seedorf / Merkel ----------------------------------------
Pato ------------------------------------------- Paloschi / Pippo / Robinho / Inzaghi / Verdi : ) /
bye Oddo , Rino ( sad but true ) , Ibra , Binho ? ,
You've pretty much slaughtered the team from this season with this. Astori isn't a LB, and he'd be terrible for us in this role.
Is there also a question between Abbiati and Amelia? I mean I thought it was pretty clear Abbiati was the better of the two.
Your midfield is probably the worst, as Van Bommel is a central player and not suited to the right of midfield. Allegri has shown a clear preference for a defensive midfielder/destroyer in front of the back four, so why take a step back and bring Montolivo for that role (we were better off keeping Pirlo if we wanted a creative player there). Also, with all due respect to De Rossi, I really don't want him. He's never developed into a leading midfielder even if he is a talent and his sometimes petulant behaviour can be detrimental to the team. In his late 20's now, I don't see him taking the leap to becoming a champion.
I also don't get why you're against Asamoah, who at Udinese has been great for a few years now. He may not be the star player we all dream of, but there's no question if he joined he'd be a very good signing.
In the AM role, Boateng's really the only realistic choice of the 3 you listed. Seedorf may be ok for the odd game but is too old and inconsistent to start frequently, while Merkel is too young to have that responsibility. If you mean those two are there for rotation or as subs, then fair enough.
Finally in attack, I think Ibra's a given. I've argued he's not a necessity for us, but unless we're planning a major rethink of our system (looks highly unlikely), then he's a massive asset to us. There are always questions about him and Pato, but I'd be interested to know how many goals have come from the two where both have played an important role in the move.
its weird that he rates Montolivo high but he doesnt rate Asamoah... in this case, Montolivo wont add nothing while Asamoah can be important element for our midfield trio...
Let me explain, he is only 22 years old. He had 2 impressive season with Udinese and had a good WC... Midfield part needs young blood, as most of our midfielders are over 32, who'll retire in 1-2 years or move elsewhere to cancel retirement more...
He is a box to box midfielder, he has good dribbling and good touch, he passes well... He has good pace, handworking,
strong player. But yet he lacks finishing and last touch... he scored 4 goals so far in his carreer says it all... He scored 1 goal with Udinese this season... 2 last season... Above all, he is valued at 15 m euros... Co-ownerships deal could drop the fee more... Udinese is good place for young players... Udinese has Cl and need deeper squad...Strasser, Merkel(loan deal), Verdi, Vila e.t.c. Odu, Zigoni e.t.c.
i want Milan to sign one of Hernanes and Hamsik plus Asamoah to fight for a CL next season...Then we can do it...more quality in midfield trio...
i really wonder who'll we buy, Berlus promise, big name...Asamoah is not a big name, quality player but not a big name... Hamsik? Fabregas?
Laudisa said that Fabregas 7 m euros wages are problem plus 40-45 m euros to Arsenal as well...Ganso depents on Non Eu Status...
i really dont see any logic in keeping the likes of Vila, Bonera, Onyewu e.t.c. We have Yepes, Silva, Mexes, Nesta...4 quality CB...Galliani said that Astori could return too... Bonera was horrible this season, also considering we have Albertazzi and Rodrigo Ely from Primavera...
We need to offload some primavera players if ages reduced to 19... for instance Strasser...who is 21 years old...
Hamsik wants Milan move... Allegri rates him very high...He said that he dreamed of coaching him... also considering Napoli's policy...i mean you cant keep the likes of Lavezzi, Hamsik with 1.5m euros a year wages...Hamsik is a player who has a value around 30 m euros, he only earns 1.5 m euros a year from them...
05-30-2011, 03:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-30-2011, 03:24 PM by Dha Brain.)
well to be honest guy's van bommel played in a 4231 for holland in south africa , they did pretty good I think ? ( sarcasm ) ibra is going to become 30 years old , henry remember when he hit his early 30's ? , what about berbatov ? early 30's de rossi can blast shots from long distances ? remember aganst tottenham ? could'nt really do that right ? hmmm , montolivo was one of the few italians who actually had shots on target in south africa , or how about they're run aganst bayern ? 2 years ago ? , you do realize guys we would look like intermilano & italy will call us Inter because we almost would have all foreigners on the pitch ? , also are us milan fans think it such a huge achievement winning the scudetto ? , you do realize that team we have now cannot win the uefa cl ? , but if scudetto challenge is more important than european glory or number 8 be my guest ? , we need more speed or strength POSSESION FOOTBALL then ok , barcelona prooved that with solid possesion a small attacking trio up top with supperior technical skills it can be acheived oh and remember 07 ? when our 2 most important strikers were exatcly gilardino & pippo or kaka ( again sarcasm ) go ahead lets concentrate on serie a again mhm ok , no number 8 with a ageing squad oh & guys we don't get mickey mouse draws like manchester united does , we usually get strong clubs in the round of 16 remember that .....
(05-30-2011, 03:23 PM)Dha Brain Wrote: well to be honest guy's van bommel played in a 4231 for holland in south africa , they did pretty good I think ? ( sarcasm ) ibra is going to become 30 years old , henry remember when he hit his early 30's ? , what about berbatov ? early 30's de rossi can blast shots from long distances ? remember aganst tottenham ? could'nt really do that right ? hmmm , montolivo was one of the few italians who actually had shots on target in south africa , or how about they're run aganst bayern ? 2 years ago ? , you do realize guys we would look like intermilano & italy will call us Inter because we almost would have all foreigners on the pitch ? , also are us milan fans think it such a huge achievement winning the scudetto ? , you do realize that team we have now cannot win the uefa cl ? , but if scudetto challenge is more important than european glory or number 8 be my guest ? , we need more speed or strength POSSESION FOOTBALL then ok , barcelona prooved that with solid possesion a small attacking trio up top with supperior technical skills it can be acheived oh and remember 07 ? when our 2 most important strikers were exatcly gilardino & pippo or kaka ( again sarcasm ) go ahead lets concentrate on serie a again mhm ok , no number 8 with a ageing squad oh & guys we don't get mickey mouse draws like manchester united does , we usually get strong clubs in the round of 16 remember that .....
Van Bommel played on the right of a midfield 2 which sat in front of the defence. The right midfielder in our 3 needs to push forward as well as press opponents. Gattuso isn't great going forward but still pushed high this season. Again, Van Bommel isn't the player to fit the right side of our midfield.
About Ibra turning 30. It's not ideal but he's in a side where he's a leader and fits well in the team on the whole. Henry, like Sheva, at 30 moved to a new club with a very different side. These are totally different cases.
De Rossi and Montolivo might have good long shots, but ultimately how much will they really raise our side. Montolivo hasn't ever reached a top club for a good reason, despite his talent and De Rossi hasn't really developed since 2006. He's essentially the same player, which isn't a player who will raise our game.
We aren't currently capable of challenging for the UCL because our midfield is lacking. In defence we're well covered and the only real risk is LB, where the hope is Allegri can get the best out of Taiwo. Our attack is world class and has been excellent this season even when our midfield struggled to supply. We need a player like Fabregas to really upgrade our midfield and ideally I'd say maybe a realistic replacement for Rino too.
Some news on Milannews.it
- Sokratis doesn't want to go back to Genoa, but reporters assert that he will not play for Milan next season.
- MU: Berbatov could be the lure to get Modric.
- Amelia: "I can only say good about Paloschi".
- A new name: Demba Ba.
- Marco Simone (former Milan's forward, a year younger than Maldini) suggested Kevin Gameiro.
- Both Milan and Inter like Lassana Diarra.
Montolivo sucks. Van Bommel is CDM.
What also befuddles me is that people here are now attacking Gattuso who had a good year and can serve as a good squad player in a 3 man midfield, but everyone is just fineeee with Seedorf??? Seedorf looked like a schoolboy all season and doesn't belong on the team.
As for Asamoah, he can be another good squad player, workhorse in our midfield. It's obvious that Allegri wants 4 hard working midfielders, with at least 1 being dynamic and having some creative skills. We do however, need at least (2) new midfielders.
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