05-18-2011, 08:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2011, 08:27 PM by brasileiro.)
(05-18-2011, 08:06 AM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Well, he did not have someone like Xavi and Iniesta next to him in Argentina 2010 WC squad. Anyhow, whats done is done. Beside, I just think that Argentina only had one bad game in the whole tournament, which so happened to be their last game too.BIG and OFF TOPIC:
So Gabriel...
You down play Pele by saying he played at the best team of his time. Ok... What I can´t understand, is the fact that at the same time you didn´t mentioned that Messi only shyne at this Barça, a team that for several pundits(and fans) around the World, is the best Barça of all time. Why the double standard, Gabriel?
Plus, unlike Pele(that won a WC at 16yo being a BIG factor), everyone is still waiting for Messi explosion at Argentine NT(To be fair, Maradona also disappointed at Spain 82). Besides, I´m not only talking about World Cup... Messi still can´t be the same of Barcelona at Argentine NT meaningless games.
And before you talk about playing for the great Brazil... Until Pele, Brazil wasn´t a factor at international level. It´s history, not my words. To make my point even more clear, before him(Pele) we´ve never won a World Cup!!!! To make the situation even more interesting, before our first title with Pele(1958), we lost to Uruguai at home in 1950. With more than 200.000 people at Maracanã... One more thing, after his retirement, Brazil take until 1994 to win a World Cup again.
You also talked about play for to play and easy football... just imagine if Messi received the treatment Pele received at 1966 World Cup in England. Portugal players fouled him out of the game... game not, out of the world Cup. And no one received even a card. Watch the film(Pele Eterno) Gabriel, and see the segment of the way teams literally HUNTED Pele on the field. You will be amazed... and even more because no player were sent off. I changed a lot of my beliefs after that film. Just a sugestion...
Today, if you look angry at any Barça palyer, it´s a sure yellow. Busquet cheat all the time, call Marcelo Mono(monkey) and nothing happens. I would love to see what punishment a player would receive for fouling Mesi out of the game the way Pele was fouled back in time.
Plus, go to a museum and take a look at the type of ball Pele(and others) played 90% of their career. I had a chance to play with one for fun, and I would love to see people saying it was easy back them to play with that heavy peace of trash. Even more when wet... And the quality of the pitches back in time? Terrible...
Messi is young, has all the time on his side, but still has a lot to do to dethrone Maradona as the best Argentine player ever. Pele is right and have the right to express his opinion. Why this angry towards Pele, my friend? Now, if you talk about his games predictions
Btw, unlike several people I see at internet, I watched Maradona playing at Napoli and Argentine NT so, I´m very confortable to compare him with Messi...
