Summer mercato 2012

[Gio-mania]

It is important we try to place the "bigger" signings before the Euro starts or at least finishes. If for example Strootman has a good competition his price will inevitably rise.

It is quite sad to see us need to channel our buys through Genoa. I have a hunch though that there is some fiscal trick involved.

[ACMILAN1983]

See now this is some transfer business I like, brazilian GK with big potential for a cheap price + has a EU passport, perfect signing.

On strootman, Raiola is in talks with Galliani to work out a deal for him.. Better not turn into another tevez saga and blow it last minute, a deal for strootman should be done within the week according to milannews.. Apparently it will be sometype of joint deal between us an Genoa worth 13mln, really dying to see which players go where, I'm sure we probably through in strasses or someone. Or maybe it's one of those 3mln a year deals similar to ibra

Looks like we have secured Gabriel (ahead of Juve who were interested) for 0.5m. He replaces Roma, while we still have Donnarruma who had a really impressive season and will probably loaned to a Serie A club next season. Basically, I presume these two will be left to fight for the GK spot in the next year or two, when Abbiati will probably be stopping and Amelia will probably still not be good enough.

About Strootman, I read that PSV have apparently rejected offers from English club, with Raiola already apparently having spoken to the about the Milan move. I didn't see anything about the Genoa link though.

ZB, it´s a opinion or do you read some information about this?

I´m asking because I see no reason for Neymar spun us. Milan still has a great reputation in Brazil, always treated Brazilians(even flops like Rivaldo) in a great way so, I see no reason for Neymar denied a transfer to Milan. Plus, I bet Robinho(very close to Neymar) always said great things about Milan... and that´s a BIG plus.

ZB probably meant Neymar won't want Milan when he has Barca and Real as options available.

Also, Ganso recently said he hopes to play all of his career with Neymar, hence the comments.

It is quite sad to see us need to channel our buys through Genoa. I have a hunch though that there is some fiscal trick involved.

I never quite understood it tbh, though we should remember until only the Boateng transfer was through Genoa, the rest of our deals were with them.

[WCmilan]

It seems like we might be selling so many of our star names sooner rather then later.. Galliani said he has to "resist the temptation" from other big clubs in europe because their willing to do/offer crazy things for silva.. where as corinthians want pato on loan, i can see that happening really, back to brazil to help him regain better health and form while we won't need to pay his wages for a season, maybe it'll leave us better off financially to make another signing..

As good as silva is guys, and may not be a CB like him for a while, a 50mln deal for him really after we payed close to nothing might be the right thing to do.. it's certainly wrong in terms of finding a CB like him, bcus there is none out there. However, with that type of money.. might need it

I'm against selling silva though over all, Ibra on the other hand.. 30mln for him i would take in a second and offload a crapload of wages, then i'd sign cavani with that money

I find it good in an better economically/better for the player as well that we do our deals through genoa.. not only do we not have to pay full amounts right away, but some of the times younger players will play for genoa, once they come to us they are better prepared and have more experience

[Siregar]

If Milan can't pay big money for established player, Milan should go to a player that really in developing into a very good one, not just a hot prospect. Player like Ganso or others who cost much less than when they already play in Europe or in big competition like Euro/World Cup. I don't want Milan turn to be an Arsenal but at the same time Milan should not just buy experienced player without any big name (cheap or free transfer type of players like Traore, Nocerino). Milan should do like MU when they bought fake Ronaldo (and of course Nani), still not proven with chance to flop but they got with reasonable price), not like Wenger who got many hot prospects but they still need so ton of games to make mistakes so that they can develop to players ready to play in a big stage.

It is duty for management to make big transfer when needed, transfer like Ibrahimovic, to boost the moral, confidence and the quality of the team otherwise we will be like Napoli, Udinese etc, who have many players ready to turn into established ones but fail to achieve glory due to lack of some world class players (not only for quality perspective but also mentality).

Ganso, Strootman, Verrati: Could actually Milan afford to buy them?

[k7r]

--- gabriel seems to be a good signing, but rafael cabral (whom milan was also interested in a couple of weeks back) seems to be better as per the ratings given in sports pages....any idea ---> rafael v/s gabriel??? who is better??

---- giuseppe rossi is injured, he is italian NT, young.....will be a lot chaeaper now, possibly 10mln if we can offer villareal.....plus he is a milan fan.......now is the time!!!

--- why cant we let robinho go to PSG and buy Pastore back......havent heard any heroics abt this lad since he joined ligue 1, how was he doing last year with PSG??? anybody knows??? would be a good deal for both clubs, we will get our young playmaker too....

--- rossi (to replace inzaghi), pastore, montolivo, strootman, criscito, astori/ogbonna, gabriel would be good mercato imo...if we can replace ibra with van persie then am 100% happy...!!!

[ACMILAN1983]

It seems like we might be selling so many of our star names sooner rather then later.. Galliani said he has to "resist the temptation" from other big clubs in europe because their willing to do/offer crazy things for silva.. where as corinthians want pato on loan, i can see that happening really, back to brazil to help him regain better health and form while we won't need to pay his wages for a season, maybe it'll leave us better off financially to make another signing..

As good as silva is guys, and may not be a CB like him for a while, a 50mln deal for him really after we payed close to nothing might be the right thing to do.. it's certainly wrong in terms of finding a CB like him, bcus there is none out there. However, with that type of money.. might need it

I'm against selling silva though over all, Ibra on the other hand.. 30mln for him i would take in a second and offload a crapload of wages, then i'd sign cavani with that money

I find it good in an better economically/better for the player as well that we do our deals through genoa.. not only do we not have to pay full amounts right away, but some of the times younger players will play for genoa, once they come to us they are better prepared and have more experience

I'm not sure how sending Pato back to Brazil helps if I'm honest. Imo, we need to take time, but get to the bottom of his problems once and for all and he has to play a part in our squad.

We also can't afford to lose Thiago Silva, he's key to our system, a leader in the squad and also the only one left who can really lead our defence. Without him, we not only give a signal of weakness, we have to start rebuilding again.

Ibra on the other hand is another who we can't necessarily afford to lose. He's a big player for us and to lose him would be to lose a winning factor in our squad. He's not as valuable for us as Thiago, but if he goes then we need to replace him with an equally valuable figure (Cavani's probably worth more than Ibra now due to age, though he'd be a dream).

Here's some sad news for those of us who like Cavani:

http://www.football-italia.net/node/11776

I must admit though, I never realised Cavani's potential until I saw him at Napoli. It was mostly because he wasn't a player I saw much of before then and he was often used in the wrong positions.

If Milan can't pay big money for established player, Milan should go to a player that really in developing into a very good one, not just a hot prospect. Player like Ganso or others who cost much less than when they already play in Europe or in big competition like Euro/World Cup. I don't want Milan turn to be an Arsenal but at the same time Milan should not just buy experienced player without any big name (cheap or free transfer type of players like Traore, Nocerino). Milan should do like MU when they bought fake Ronaldo (and of course Nani), still not proven with chance to flop but they got with reasonable price), not like Wenger who got many hot prospects but they still need so ton of games to make mistakes so that they can develop to players ready to play in a big stage.

It is duty for management to make big transfer when needed, transfer like Ibrahimovic, to boost the moral, confidence and the quality of the team otherwise we will be like Napoli, Udinese etc, who have many players ready to turn into established ones but fail to achieve glory due to lack of some world class players (not only for quality perspective but also mentality).

Ganso, Strootman, Verrati: Could actually Milan afford to buy them?

Verrati seems unlikely, Juve seem to have him secured, although there are rumours we might be trying to squeeze in ahead them. He looks good though and we can definitely afford him.

I agree with the rest of your post. We should be looking to find emerging talent more often on the market, as well as making a policy of developing our youth as much as possible (getting as many youth talents in the first team squad as possible). However, a club of Milan's stature must also be prepared to make big purchases once in a while. It's about boosting morale within the club, raising the quality and level of the side, as well as key for marketing etc. In addition to this, as silly as it sounds, it's a clear sign of intent and power.

[Siregar]

Talking about Cavani, one user Juventino bastardo in old MM forum, Tony29, comes to my mind, he like Cavani a lot and tipped that he could be something special (I don't say Tony29 was good at judging the potential of a player, only mentioned one of his tip which is coincidentally right).

I agree with the rest of your post. We should be looking to find emerging talent more often on the market, as well as making a policy of developing our youth as much as possible (getting as many youth talents in the first team squad as possible). However, a club of Milan's stature must also be prepared to make big purchases once in a while. It's about boosting morale within the club, raising the quality and level of the side, as well as key for marketing etc. In addition to this, as silly as it sounds, it's a clear sign of intent and power.

I still wait the management to promote many talents to the first team (Milan still don't give enough trust and chance for young players), mostly not to be as starter but to introduce our hot prospects to Serie A so that in one season they could play in small teams of Serie A or at least competitive team in Serie B. I read other forum telling that Cristante (playing with Allievi Nazionali last season who won the Allievi League) who made debut in CL this season, is linked with Novara, this kind of effect I expect from introducing young players into first team (personally I would like to see him playing one more season with Primavera and get some games from Allegri in Serie A/Coppa).

I do think, this is only the most suitable way for Milan to gain as many as profit from youth, not only financially but more about to get the best quality of the young players. Some players who really show big hope like Merkel or DeSciglio could stay with Milan first team since we can't afford to have many young players on the field. It is pity that we can't have a youth team (second team) to the lower-level League like in Germany or Spain to get tons of games and develop into players ready to take part in the first team of Milan.

About Verrati, I checked wikipedia, it seems that he is like Giovinco from body size perspective. He seems however possessing a strength when covering the ball form the opponent. If this guy is really promising, I don't mind he joins Milan and we will have two Italian prospects, him and El Shaarawy.

[Gabriel426]

Rossi and Pippo are two completely different type of players. Rossi for Robinho n the other hand looks good.
Cavani is a great talent but I think his stats are abit overplayed due to the services he got from Leveavvi, Hamsik, Zuniga, Maggio, Gargano and Inler. Now I am not saying he is not a great striker but I still have that tiny little doubts about him creating and scoring all by himself.

[ZvonimirBoban]

Leveavvi

Pardon me?

[Siregar]

Leveavvi

Pardon me?

I think he means the Argentinian striker, I also forget his name.