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RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - WCmilan - 04-01-2011

wouldnt it be smarter to buy lucas marcelinho instead of ganso im pretty sure he'll come alot cheaper and we could possibly make a move for neymar.. i know we dont need neymar, but the talent of this marcelinho guy and ganso and neymar is undoubted and im sure theyll be huge and very very smart investements we'll have the 3 best players in the world in 4-5 years imo. investments like this are needed. eventually if we do the same as we did with kaka with marcelinho neymar and ganso and pato (imagining we have all 4 which will not happen) if they reach their full potential they can be sold in the 60mln region like kaka was. 240mln euros could have us set for rebuilding our team 3-4 times if we make smart investments we wont have to worry about a 30-40mln budget every summer mercato while barca and real and chelsea and the likes are spending 80+ not to mention the increase in revenue we'll have


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - Ca Rossonero - 04-01-2011

(04-01-2011, 11:26 PM)WCmilan Wrote: wouldnt it be smarter to buy lucas marcelinho instead of ganso im pretty sure he'll come alot cheaper and we could possibly make a move for neymar.. i know we dont need neymar, but the talent of this marcelinho guy and ganso and neymar is undoubted and im sure theyll be huge and very very smart investements we'll have the 3 best players in the world in 4-5 years imo. investments like this are needed. eventually if we do the same as we did with kaka with marcelinho neymar and ganso and pato (imagining we have all 4 which will not happen) if they reach their full potential they can be sold in the 60mln region like kaka was. 240mln euros could have us set for rebuilding our team 3-4 times if we make smart investments we wont have to worry about a 30-40mln budget every summer mercato while barca and real and chelsea and the likes are spending 80+ not to mention the increase in revenue we'll have

lucas won't be cheap. He has a 90 mil buy out clause (ganso has 50 mil). MEaning club holds leverage unless they are 'wow'd by an offer'. Sao Paolo know his talent, they will hold him till they see well over 20 mil. And keep in mind they don't like us because of kaka deal.

Also Ganso is great. We should pursue him. If we don't get him, we don;t but we shouldn't give up till he signs elsewhere. Type of talent you don't see in world football but once every 5 years....

The other edge Ganso has to others is he's of an age to contribute immediately. Lucas, Lamela, Ericksen would all be long term prospects. Good buys, but still long term. We'd have to look at another player to help us too...


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - nefremo - 04-03-2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGWtmuTETk

This is the goal Lucas scored today. Very impressive stuff. Very direct. I've seen him play only twice and I was impressed. Aggressive player. Very very impressive for an 18yr old. And as Brasileiro has said, very different then Ganso. So they can both play together. I know you can't judge a player from 2 games, but you can obviously see the talent and the potential. From here on, it's just a matter of IF he realizes his full potential.

My first choice is still Ganso. As I think he is a rare player. Highly intelligent. A real true number 10. But if we can somehow get our hands on Lucas as well, I wouldn't mind it at all. Of course, I know I am asking for too much. haha

By the way, Brazil will be scary in 2014. Sagrin


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - Jim_UK - 04-04-2011

Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday so there should be a couple of Brazilian players on show for the Ukrainians.

Abraão, we've already had a chat about Douglas Costa but what about his team-mate Willian, what do you make of him? A few English clubs are being linked with him so it'll be good to see him in action in the Nou Camp.


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - brasileiro - 04-10-2011

(04-04-2011, 11:37 AM)Jim_UK Wrote: Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday so there should be a couple of Brazilian players on show for the Ukrainians.

Abraão, we've already had a chat about Douglas Costa but what about his team-mate Willian, what do you make of him? A few English clubs are being linked with him so it'll be good to see him in action in the Nou Camp.
Jim,

First time I saw William he was at Brazil´s youths playing in South America under-20 championship. Brazil won the tournament with Pato and Lucas Leiva shinning, but Willian disapointed. After that tournament, he earned a starting place at Corinthians senior team and was performing very well. Moreover, he was the best player on the team. Shame for him to leave early for Shaktar...

Imo Wiliam is underrated. He´s the typical #10 that unfortunly is being placed at the left by Shaktar coach. Douglas Costa is a side player, but Willian perform better as the "1" in the 4-3-1-2(for example). But even playing out of position, from what I read, he became the idol of the Shaktar supporters. Just imagine if the coach put him at the right position...

Thats one thing that bothers me in Mano Menezes and the majority of Europeans coaches. I believe in "think players first, scheme second" and most of these coaches(maybe for ego or lack of plan B) think their schemes are more important than the players strenghts on the squad.

Any more especic question about William? Hope to have helped...


(04-03-2011, 11:39 PM)nefremo Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGWtmuTETk

This is the goal Lucas scored today. Very impressive stuff. Very direct. I've seen him play only twice and I was impressed. Aggressive player. Very very impressive for an 18yr old. And as Brasileiro has said, very different then Ganso. So they can both play together. I know you can't judge a player from 2 games, but you can obviously see the talent and the potential. From here on, it's just a matter of IF he realizes his full potential.

My first choice is still Ganso. As I think he is a rare player. Highly intelligent. A real true number 10. But if we can somehow get our hands on Lucas as well, I wouldn't mind it at all. Of course, I know I am asking for too much. haha

By the way, Brazil will be scary in 2014. Sagrin
Lucas is amazing and a great kid, too. Very down to earth...

Regarding the bold part, I´m very pleased by the talent pool, but Mano Menezes stubbornness is starting to worry me...




RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - Ca Rossonero - 04-10-2011

(04-10-2011, 02:45 PM)brasileiro Wrote:
(04-04-2011, 11:37 AM)Jim_UK Wrote: Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday so there should be a couple of Brazilian players on show for the Ukrainians.

Abraão, we've already had a chat about Douglas Costa but what about his team-mate Willian, what do you make of him? A few English clubs are being linked with him so it'll be good to see him in action in the Nou Camp.
Jim,

First time I saw William he was at Brazil´s youths playing in South America under-20 championship. Brazil won the tournament with Pato and Lucas Leiva shinning, but Willian disapointed. After that tournament, he earned a starting place at Corinthians senior team and was performing very well. Moreover, he was the best player on the team. Shame for him to leave early for Shaktar...

Imo Wiliam is underrated. He´s the typical #10 that unfortunly is being placed at the left by Shaktar coach. Douglas Costa is a side player, but Willian perform better as the "1" in the 4-3-1-2(for example). But even playing out of position, from what I read, he became the idol of the Shaktar supporters. Just imagine if the coach put him at the right position...

Thats one thing that bothers me in Mano Menezes and the majority of Europeans coaches. I believe in "think players first, scheme second" and most of these coaches(maybe for ego or lack of plan B) think their schemes are more important than the players strenghts on the squad.

Any more especic question about William? Hope to have helped...


(04-03-2011, 11:39 PM)nefremo Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGWtmuTETk

This is the goal Lucas scored today. Very impressive stuff. Very direct. I've seen him play only twice and I was impressed. Aggressive player. Very very impressive for an 18yr old. And as Brasileiro has said, very different then Ganso. So they can both play together. I know you can't judge a player from 2 games, but you can obviously see the talent and the potential. From here on, it's just a matter of IF he realizes his full potential.

My first choice is still Ganso. As I think he is a rare player. Highly intelligent. A real true number 10. But if we can somehow get our hands on Lucas as well, I wouldn't mind it at all. Of course, I know I am asking for too much. haha

By the way, Brazil will be scary in 2014. Sagrin
Lucas is amazing and a great kid, too. Very down to earth...

Regarding the bold part, I´m very pleased by the talent pool, but Mano Menezes stubbornness is starting to worry me...


I couldn't agree more with you. This is why i hate LEonardo as a coach. His tactic first philosophy embarrassed milan so much, and now inter too (thats funny though Big Grin)

But about Mano. I don't really see it... as a brazilian you know more than me. Care to elaborate? What should he do more of? What have you specifically disliked? To me he's trying A LOT of kids, which is good for now, but i don't think he can expect to win a world cup with players all under 25.

Maybe he's a bit married to 4-2-3-1 but he's tried it in many looks from what I've seen. Robinho and Neymar as false #9s. Pato as a real #9. CAM of different quaslities.

Doesn't seem near as stubborn as dunga


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - Siregar - 04-14-2011

Hi Brasileiro. Nice to still see your thread here (thanks for people who made it). You watch Portuguese League, mate? I would like to know your opinion about Fernando Reges. And if possible could you compare him with Jucilei? Thanks before.


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - Hitman - 04-14-2011

I asked Brasiliero a couple of years ago about Fernando - he is not a fan......... I certainly am!


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - abbeyleemania - 04-18-2011

@Brasiliero What do you think about Danilo(Santos RB) who regarded as new Maicon by italian media?


RE: Brasileiro: our Brazilian scout - karimo - 04-18-2011

guys what do you think about ganso?it seems like he will join us.