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RE: Pato - ACMILAN1983 - 12-13-2012
I think it's pretty clear Pato's been frozen out until his situation has been resolved. I said it from the beginning, I think this "injury" has been used to cover up his problems with the management and not playing. After all, he got injured during the Anderlecht game, got through the game and scored a goal to boot and then he's been confirmed to essentially just have a bruise. That doesn't keep you out for a month and a half.
Note his agent also said that Pato isn't going to ask for a transfer (maybe because he already did) and that it's up to Milan to evaluate offers. To me, the signals suggest we're going to sell Pato this January should a decent offer come in. I don't think Berlusconi will object either anymore after describing him as a "problem" after Pato's outburst.
Honestly, I can't keep defending him in terms of keeping him either. I want to give him until the end of the season because we all know what he's capable of, but if he never plays then then it's a waste, especially given the frustration/outburst he showed after Anderlecht.
RE: Pato - xudong - 12-13-2012
Dev, I am with you. I feel that Pato (and to a similar extent, Robinho) can be useful or very useful for this Milan, but they are both frustrating players (perhaps a bit unfair on Robinho of current stage, as he is after all contributing goals and assists). Pato is mentally and physically fragile, while Robinho simply don't seem to care. I am afraid that they have become a liability for the team despite their teammates have inferior football talent.
For that reason, I can't make up my mind if I want them (either or both) leave in January or in the coming summer. I am going to have to support our management on whatever they do.
RE: Pato - WCmilan - 12-13-2012
(12-13-2012, 03:51 PM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote: I think it's pretty clear Pato's been frozen out until his situation has been resolved. I said it from the beginning, I think this "injury" has been used to cover up his problems with the management and not playing. After all, he got injured during the Anderlecht game, got through the game and scored a goal to boot and then he's been confirmed to essentially just have a bruise. That doesn't keep you out for a month and a half.
Note his agent also said that Pato isn't going to ask for a transfer (maybe because he already did) and that it's up to Milan to evaluate offers. To me, the signals suggest we're going to sell Pato this January should a decent offer come in. I don't think Berlusconi will object either anymore after describing him as a "problem" after Pato's outburst.
Honestly, I can't keep defending him in terms of keeping him either. I want to give him until the end of the season because we all know what he's capable of, but if he never plays then then it's a waste, especially given the frustration/outburst he showed after Anderlecht.
Completely agree, I think Pato is in a similar situation to Sneijder at the moment, only patos situation as a little more mutual respect between club and him as it seems, I mean nothing bad being said back and fourth and it's not a question of money really but both moves share a similar outcome, they'll benefit the clubs in their own ways and some ways they possibly wont.
for example,
Inter and Sneijder
Negatives: There losing a world class player obviously who will be hard to replace.
Positives: They'll save on the wage bill and if they do replace him with someone good they'll have made a smart move.
Milan and Pato
Negatives:I, along with many other fans have supported him for a long time, it wont be as emotional as Maldini retired or Sheva leaving but none the less. Also, he may end up fulfilling his potential which I'd then regret.
Positives:We'll take in a sence a 'burden(sp?)' off our team because he's occupying a big wage and isn't showing for it. Furthermore, we can replace him with someone who can play regularly and make a difference for us.
RE: Pato - Warro Bantan - 12-16-2012
How about we do a loan-swap with/ City for Balotelli? Just for the season mind you....or a Pato (insert striker here) swap?
RE: Pato - xudong - 12-16-2012
I would do a Pato/Silva swap.
Either David Silva of City or Thiago Silva of PSG or Anderson Vital da Silva (Dedé) of Vasco da Gama. Heck, it would be basically be a Silva/Silva swap, as Pato himself is Alexandre Rodrigues da Silva.
RE: Pato - Siregar - 12-16-2012
So much talent he got but injury prevent him to explode. Really pity!
In age of 18-19 he already looked top quality striker, now he is just far from his past, really sad.
RE: Pato - xudong - 12-16-2012
He was a great talent when he was only 16-17. He regressed badly. I think Ronaldinho was a bad influence.
It is a shame that he turned into what he is like right now. To think he is only 23!
If he truly wishes to get back to old form and repay back the club, he should announce that he will imitate Redondo and forfeit all salary until he starts to play regularly and score regularly. That would show his sincerity and loyalty, and will earn back the fans' support.
I don't see that happening at all.
RE: Pato - Siregar - 12-16-2012
(12-16-2012, 05:40 AM)ACM2012 Wrote: He was a great talent when he was only 16-17. He regressed badly. I think Ronaldinho was a bad influence.
It is a shame that he turned into what he is like right now. To think he is only 23!
If he truly wishes to get back to old form and repay back the club, he should announce that he will imitate Redondo and forfeit all salary until he starts to play regularly and score regularly. That would show his sincerity and loyalty, and will earn back the fans' support.
I don't see that happening at all.
Yeah, if he does what you suggest, I am convinced he has boost up his character. But it is not. We can see how Shaarawy play (very motivated, disciplined and hardworking) compared to Pato. No wonder Allegri benched him even he was not injured. One side I am sad that Pato has not shown great attitude in the game (not he is trouble make but he is just not what Allegri likes from his players) but the other side I am glad that even Pato could be sit on the bench.
RE: Pato - Best-Pundit - 12-17-2012
If you guys want AC Milan's 8th UCL this season, then its time to support Pato.
RE: Pato - ACM1899 - 12-17-2012
if you want to stop world hunger, improve economy, lower taxes and bring world peace you have to support pato.
and Robinho.