(08-02-2011, 08:33 PM)nefremo Wrote: You are right, maybe 30mil is overboard for Alcantara. Even though I believe that he is one of the biggest talents in world football. And I'm not basing that of this summer's u-21 and the friendly games. But again, you are absolutely right. 30 is too much at this point. But then let's give them 20, or whatever Galliani thinks it's right. The concept is still the same. Barca wants Fabregas badly apparently but If reports are true they are struggling to find the money necessary to buy. So let them have Cesc and we get their boy. Since I think that him and his father (who's been very vocal about playing time) wouldn't mind a move at all if Cesc ends up at Barca.

But again like I said, this is probably wishful thinking.

(08-02-2011, 08:42 PM)Siregar Wrote: If Barca do struggle to provide amount of money Arsenal ask and there is chance (even only little chance) for us to get Fabregas, I don't know why should we run from this golden opportunity? If it is the case, this is the biggest chance (from very little chance of getting Fabregas) for Milan to get Fabregas while Barca could not fulfill what Arsenal want. We are talking about Fabregas here, world class player and one of the best midfielder in the world right now, a chance to get him although very very little, should be utilized IMO.

(08-02-2011, 09:03 PM)Siregar Wrote: About Fabregas, that he would accept bench role and pay cut because he is catalan, Barca fan, etc, I don't believe such of thing. How old Fabregas now? How good is he now? How many years has he been showing to football fans how good he has been as midfielder? Suddenly he will accept bench role while when he was 17-18 years old he left Barca? IF Fabregas goes to Barca, he must sure that he will be starter IMO, no way he will accept bench role even a squad rotation player. He is a world class footballer, one of world best midfielder right now.

(08-02-2011, 09:26 PM)millinarios Wrote:

(08-02-2011, 09:03 PM)Siregar Wrote: About Fabregas, that he would accept bench role and pay cut because he is catalan, Barca fan, etc, I don't believe such of thing. How old Fabregas now? How good is he now? How many years has he been showing to football fans how good he has been as midfielder? Suddenly he will accept bench role while when he was 17-18 years old he left Barca? IF Fabregas goes to Barca, he must sure that he will be starter IMO, no way he will accept bench role even a squad rotation player. He is a world class footballer, one of world best midfielder right now.

Well, I disagree a bit here... Yes, he is a world class footballer, but Barcelona has many of them... And considering that Barcelona is on top of the football world right now, and their team is a well-oiled machine, I don't think any newcomer would have a guaranteed place in the starting line up. Like, Ibrahimovic is a world class footballer too, and he got burned in Barcelona...

Also, I checked how Spain played in World Cup 2010. Fabregas couldn't make the starting line up, while in their 5 man midfield there were 4 Barcelona players. So I don't think he has any guarantees to start right away if he goes back there. Probably he is confident enough about his abilities, and willing to fight for his place in the team - but I think that's a minimum from a player of his calibre.

(08-02-2011, 09:27 PM)reza Wrote: Welcome millinarios, hope you enjoy it here and remain active

(08-02-2011, 02:25 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Another thing, I think we are all putting too much attention on what this LCM must do..... To me, he just needs to be someone who can play both ways with a more offensive punch, like long shot, can dribble pass his marker and make good passes. He does not need to be someone who dictate the tempo of the game like Pirlo, since MVB can also pass.

(08-02-2011, 09:37 PM)Siregar Wrote: If he won't be starter there and will only play bench-role, I doubt Fabregas would like to join Barca. He left Barca for hoping games in Arsenal I assume and now he wants to go back to Barca just playing bench-role? I do doubt it even Fabregas is a fanatic fan of Barca. The reason is just simple, he can be starter in any other big club in Europe. That's why I don't see his coming to Barca for bench role.