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RE: Summer Mercato - nefremo - 03-21-2014

I think this summer will be the answer to that Reza.


RE: Summer Mercato - ACMILAN1983 - 03-21-2014

(03-21-2014, 03:33 PM)Nalx Wrote: Who is this Bucchioni guy that he thinks he knows everything -- from the situation in the locker room to the meeting between B&G? That alone should raise suspicion. Personally, I don't buy it.

That said I like the idea of Prandelli being our coach. I know that won't be fair for Seedorf since he's barely given time to prove himself but as I've stated before I always think a role as director (something like Braida's old position maybe) is more suitable for him.

I'm very sceptical of all rumours, as like I said over the last couple of days most Italian journalists are nothing less than idiots.

However, as reza said, if even half of this is true, then this club is finished.

(03-21-2014, 04:32 PM)nefremo Wrote: I'm looking at this on the brighter side. I'm actually glad all of this came to light now. They've been hiding the problems for a long time. In my opinion, something like this HAD TO happen in order for things to change. Otherwise we were just going to be cruising along for seasons to come....sometimes making the CL and sometimes not...but really with no chance to win anything and just making up the numbers.

This will at least shake things up and at least the fans now know. Changes have to happen and they can't use the "we are good as we are" chit anymore. Clearly everyone knows what is happening....and even if not all of it is true, there must be some kind of fire where there is smoke.

It would have been ideal if the management were competent enough to change things without all of this getting out in the open....but clearly they didn't do that. They thought that the fans are just a bunch of sheep and they were going to lie and cover up all the nonsense. It's always someone else's fault. The coach (which they brought in), the players (which they assembled), the legends (who made history and bled on the field for the colors), the fans (who make football football).....yet never blame themselves!

I'm happy with all this criticism because it's the truth. Now hopefully someone does something about it!

It depends on how you look at it and for me it all comes down to responsibility, very much related to what I was saying post Parma about Silvio taking responsibility to manage this mess, when so far all I'm apparently seeing is scapegoating and continued mismanagement. Your second to last paragraph sums it all up perfectly, they will always look for someone else to blame.

If we're going to look at the rumours, then apparently no one is safe at the club, so now we're in a situation where literally everyone seems to be fighting each other to try and save their own hide and in order to do it everything occurs out in public view. Today, Seedorf gets called into an unplanned meeting by Galliani while he's supposed to be in effectively a conference of all departments, senior and youth. It's one thing to call him into a meeting, it's another to do it in the middle of the day while in public view, because the press, who have no qualms about speculating about the club as it is, will now have more ammunition. Also imagine what all the other departments must be thinking about him being called away like this.

Then you have Galliani, who on the one hand looks completely set to lose his job, but on the other hand may be taking the most underhanded methods of all to save himself. Silvio on the other hand seems to have lost all control, supporting no one and blaming everyone on the planet for the clubs current state, only adding to the madness.

Finally, Barbara, the one hope a lot of fans had, is currently no where to be seen and apparently rumoured to be closer to Galliani than ever before, showing very little ambition to see out the supposed project she wanted to come to fruition just months ago.

I agree with you in that what Maldini said had to be said, but the club have responded in a way where they will sooner blame him for the problems then actually listen to what he has to say. Add that to the complete internal chaos at the club, which is just beyond belief and you've got this situation where if you're in the club, then everyone and their dog is your worst enemy and you need to take them out before they take you out.

This club right now is just broken, literally from the top and it's being torn apart. Someone needs to take charge and manage the situation, but the person to do that, right now appears to be the one quickest to point fingers and add more havoc.


RE: Summer Mercato - xudong - 03-21-2014

(03-21-2014, 11:07 AM)ACMILAN1983 Wrote:
(03-21-2014, 03:31 AM)honsano Wrote: Honestly, we shouldn't need a Balo sale to balance the books. If the team does as outsiders often say they are going to then this bloated team should have a lot of pricey driftwood shipped out in the summer. Those contracts are essentially going to pay for the lack of CL not the sale of those players. Balo's sale should be used to strengthen the team. It is just a matter of if we can rid our selves of the useless players which shackle our wage bill.

For me selling Balo isn't about balancing the books, but about rebuilding correctly.

Interesting article on Milannews originally from TuttoMercatoWeb...

http://www.milannews.it/calciomercato-milan/bucchioni-ha-vinto-ancora-galliani-seedorf-gia-al-capolinea-inzaghi-in-pole-ma-torna-il-nome-di-prandelli-la-rivolta-guidata-di-montolivo-139741

I hope it's basically wrong, because what's said is just worrying. To summarise:

- The idea that Silvio would give Barbara full control of the club and Galliani wouldn't play a part is wrong.

- The only way Galliani is leaving is Berlusconi decides to sell (if so then I hope he sells!).

- Galliani has won over Silvio that he was wrong to go with Seedorf, as he wanted Prandelli this summer (this part I agree with).

- Galliani is basically telling Silvio that Seedorf has lost the dressing room.

- There were hints that Seedorf wasn't wanted when people close to Galliani attacked Seedorf before he even came in.

- Montolivo has been leading the rebellion against Seedorf amongst the players. His personal reason for doing so is that he's not playing all the time and wants to keep his place in the Italy world cup side. He also apparently didn't like being on the bench vs Napoli and Mexes being made captain.

- Apparently along with Montolivo, some young players and "senators" question the training methods.

- Galliani is also attacking Seedorf on not playing Honda and De Sciglio and others. Apparently, he also didn't like Seedorf meeting the ultras and apparently it's not good for Silvio either.

- Silvio doesn't like Seedorf's system (4-2-3-1) and didn't like Seedorf's public comment of revolution in the summer. If Seedorf's recent results didn't happen, all this would be kept within the company, but it's become more public due to the on field problems.

- Silvio wants Seedorf to go to 4-3-1-2 with Honda playing behind Kaka/Balo alongside Pazzini.

- Lazio and Fiorentina are key for Seedorf's future, as Silvio will use those matches to judge him. Apparently, Silvio's still hopeful of Seedorf becoming a great coach. If Seedorf fails and leaves, Tassotti would be caretaker.

- If Seedorf isn't a part of our future, Prandelli is in line as Sacchi recommended him. Another solution would be Inzaghi, although the club are afraid to burn him.

- Apparently Maldini coming back is a bridge burned completely. After his interview, apparently his attack on Galliani wasn't even liked by Silvio. Also Albertini is no longer in the picture for a position at the club. Well, if true this is just moronic, as quite frankly the truth hurts sometimes.

- The rejuvenation of the management will stop short with Sogliano taking Braida's role.

- Barbara can't force Galliani out and if he's dismissed then it'll cost 30m. As we are, the club would rather use that to invest in players than have to use it to pay of Galliani.

Essentially, if this is true, this club is outright fucked and we're well into the path of destruction and we're probably at the brink of no return, if that's even possible now.

Thanks for all the update, Dev. I share your pessimism, that we are absolutely and 100% fucked now. I don't look forward to the next decade. Soon enough, we fans would be cheering with tears of joy for beating Lazio or Inter once in a blue moon. Facepalm


RE: Summer Mercato - nefremo - 03-21-2014

Damn you guys!!!!!!!!! Do you have to make sense??? I was actually hoping for this situation to force changes for the better!

You completely messed up my thought process now and got me in a pessimistic mood!
Big Grin


RE: Summer Mercato - Mystik - 03-21-2014

I almost want a revolution..just so I can get excited about some change in this club. I am tired of the same old playing style, with the same old crappy players week in, week out. I don't care if we fill our roster with U-20 world cup stars..(okay maybe I do) but I just want something to get excited about. All news regarding Milan seems to be depressing.


RE: Summer Mercato - WCmilan - 03-21-2014

I second Mystiks comment


RE: Summer Mercato - ACMILAN1983 - 03-22-2014

Sorry nefremo Angel

Well, another day and more stories in the press, but ones which don't really fill me with optimism.

The first is this:

http://www.milannews.it/rassegna-stampa/barbara-futuro-in-politica-galliani-ritroverebbe-il-suo-spazio-139845

Essentially, Silvio now wants Barbara to run for European elections and she's seriously interested, meaning essentially while she would still have a position in Milan, her presence and workload would be much less. If that happens, who will be the one to pick up the slack? You guessed it! Good old Adriano with his shiny new Braida (a person whose title is DS but probably won't have any real role).

On top of that apparently the purpose of yesterday's meeting between Galliani and Seedorf has been revealed. Seedorf has apparently 2 games to prove himself (an in form Lazio and Fiorentina Facepalm) and the side's going into retreat. Seedorf also get's a tutor...in Galliani! So, Galliani, a guy with no coaching history and based on recent history questionable knowledge about the sport itself is tutoring our head coach. Okmilan

I'm lost, it seems like the past 6 months of madness have been for absolutely nothing. We're returning to where we were (only the poor sod Braida's lost his job as a result), with our glorious leader Silvio continuing to screw the club over, Barbara's rearing her ugly second face and the hero Galliani continuing the slow torturous death of the once great club known as Milan.

Let the good times roll! Ole


RE: Summer Mercato - reza - 03-22-2014

I guess I can repeat my post from earlier ........ even if half true we are finished.
Almost speechless, I am sure these recent revelations can turn to be false but at this point we seem finished.


RE: Summer Mercato - Mystik - 03-22-2014

I think regardless of what happens, the club's reputation has been seriously damaged (hopefully not irreparably). I don't know what quality players will come here if they really have a choice. Only players trying to start their careers and want to use Milan as a stepping stone (but we're not even known for developing youngsters Facepalm)


RE: Summer Mercato - ACMILAN1983 - 03-22-2014

Well, the good news is some aspects of the stories have been denied. Berlusconi says none of his kids (or at least his daughters) will be entering the elections, so hopefully that was just a made up story (reaffirming some faith in Barbara).

Seedorf has denied saying he wants 3/4 of the squad gone and apparently, he called the meeting with Galliani to ask for his help. How much of this is true remains to be seen imo.

Oh and Silvio has said again he will remain close to Milan as the club needs him (apparently only half joking). Silvio should know all talk and no action isn't going to help. I hate to say it, but this club really needs him managing it right now.

I'm still rather pessimistic, but at least people in the club are starting to comment (deny) on the constant rumours.