AC Milan Forums - Unofficial
Summer Mercato 2011 - Printable Version

+- AC Milan Forums - Unofficial (https://www.milanmania.com/forum)
+-- Forum: AC MILAN (https://www.milanmania.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Forum: Transfers (https://www.milanmania.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=10)
+--- Thread: Summer Mercato 2011 (/showthread.php?tid=5)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Ryo - 06-14-2011

(06-14-2011, 05:23 PM)abbeyleemania Wrote: Neymar is great signing for Real Madrid, but i really want to know how they will co-exist together...Ronaldo, Neymar, Oezil,
Di Maria, Benzema, Nuri Sahin...They wont have any chance vs Real Madrid with a weak team defence... Last year's Real was an anti-Mourinho, cuz we are talking about a coach who park the bus vs Barcelona... it seems this wont chance with this kind of signings...i rate Neymar so high...He will be a hit in world football soon... But only place in Real for him is striker position...

Neymar

Di Maria Oezil Ronaldo

Nuri Sahin XX

if they sign Coentrao, Their team defence will be weaker...

Regarding 24 m euros plus some youngsters, This is very low for Silva...He is young and world's best CB...He definetely costs more than 24 m euros...if Milan aims high, we should keep Silva... We just renewed Silva's contract...

What happens if we contact iniesta in the coming days? iniesta will say we talked to him and we should talk to Barcelona...Then take a look at Barca forums...You wont see this kind of posts...There is loyalty...if Buffon can stay in B though great offers, if Totti can stay at Roma when he can win a lot more elsewhere, this is loyalty...

Silva is a honest man...He is not Shevchenko or Kaka... Milan wanted to sell Kaka... Milan wanted to sell Sheva...Milan wanted to sell them...cuz they were aged, not performed like they used to... they were in decline...

Milan accepted 100-150 m euros from City 6 months ago before Real Madrid move... But Kaka rejected it... Kaka was injury prone, was earning high wages, he lost his deadly weapon, his pace... he was in decline, 10 m euros a year.

Milan didnt sell Kaka after great CL campaign in 2007... Milan didnt sell Sheva after scudetto... Milan didnt sell Sheva after 2003 CL...

Milan sold them when they were in decline and were aged. in right time... Players also wanted to earn more money elsewhere, opted for more money...

Whenever Kaka linked with Real Madrid, Milan renewed his contract with pay rises... Lets remember, Real wanted to sign Kaka, if im not mistaken, Calderon promised 3 big signing, Kaka, Ronaldo or Robben... He just manage to sign Robben... Kaka used Real Madrid to get more money from Milan...

Milan always behaved great to its players, come on we signed his crap football player brother, Digao to feel Kaka happier... Esajas for Seedorf... We paid 1 m euros to Kaka's brother...

Interesting proposition here. Another reason why I think Thiago is staying. Barca made contact with Thiago several months back, the interview was 3 months old, and Thiago signed last month. Now why in the world would he come out about it after he signed the new deal and not before? Obviously he's not gonna get another deal quite so soon. This just points out that someone is dragging up some old news to put into papers to sell. Nothing new, papers do that all the time.

Thiago isn't going anywhere guys, another reason why, I read on Goal:
Nowhere in the interview does he mention that he wants to leave. He tells Barca to talk with Milan, as a comment on the article stated "thats a more diplomatic way of letting Milan deal with it (even if its to tell Barca to F**k off Sagrin)."
Second part of the interview was talking about how he played the Barca reserves (we did that in preseason or something) and praise for their passing game.
The fools selling papers just put two comments together and let the readers read into it however they like. Again, nothing new.

As for Ibra, our deal was in place since last year, the funds reserved to pay off his transfer should be from Berlu's own coffers since Ibra was a "Gift" to us. Galliani just made the deal a lot sweeter by negotiation, it doesn't mean we have to pay up from the clubs own pockets.

That said, I am wondering about something. If Taiwo does get his French passport (as he should since he worked there for like 5 years), does that mean we can de-register him from the non-EU spot and sign Ganso? Because thats really my only concern this Summer, whether Ganso joins us now or later.


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Ca Rossonero - 06-14-2011

If Taiwo does get a french passport I believe we can re-register him....but the FIGC is expected to rule in favor of two nonEU spots.





RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Gio-mania - 06-14-2011

Obviously if Silva wants to leave we should let him, but he has to understand we want huge cash for him. Best defender in the world, as our management said a while back: "he is worth Messi". Anything below 50-60 million would be bad business.

Seriously though we cannot take Thiago Silva's word. Kakà wanted to finish his career with us, we all know how that went. He even seemed like one of the "good guys", unlike Zlatan and Cristiano Ronaldo for example. If I'm not mistaken even Sheva wanted to stay with us.

The sale of Kakà was too good to be true, € 65 million for a player who has been injured for two seasons straight. Sheva too played far far below his standard after he left us, for € 40-45 million. Good business there too. But Sheva was 30 years anyway and Kakà was so prone to injury, although still had some "theoretical years in his prime" since he was just 27. Thiago Silva is turning 27 this fall, so as a central defender there are still good years left for him. Also he hasn't shown signs of losing his game, actually he is getting better and better, and he isn't really that injury prone. So we really need sick amounts of money to make this deal worthwhile.


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Ryo - 06-14-2011

(06-14-2011, 05:42 PM)Ca Rossonero Wrote: If Taiwo does get a french passport I believe we can re-register him....but the FIGC is expected to rule in favor of two nonEU spots.

But when is this FIGC ruling going to take place?


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Pato Milan - 06-14-2011

Rumours about Neymar going to Real Madrid are fake since he just arrived in Montevideo to play the libertadores final and said that there are no offers, that he would leave and that if there were offers he would send them back.
http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/times/santos/noticia/2011/06/neymar-nega-acordo-com-real-madrid-hoje-nada-me-tira-do-santos.html (basically the title says "Today, nothing gets me out of Santos"
I dont think he will leave any time soon, he said he wanted to be Fifa World player of the year with Santos (which I think is highly unlikely) since if he shines in the Libertadores final, in the Fifa Club World Cup he manages to beat Messi and Barca and steals the spotlight from Messi in the Copa America he believes he can do it and so does the press


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - xudong - 06-14-2011

The problem with Real Madrid is lack of continuity in both club and team levels (and lack of patience, which explains lack of continuity). They have never lacked talents, but they have sacked way too many coaches in the past years.

If they wanted to succeed, they ought to keep Mourinho for longer and allow him to go trophyless for at least one or two seasons. Mourinho is a coach able to grind out needed results given players that he wants, and at this current moment, what matters more to Real Madrid (at least to their administration) is to win first, before they can win beautifully later.

So I personally feel that Real Madrid will keep Mourinho for a while until he wins something big; then the arrogant Real Madrid administration will let him go because they will be fed up with that asshole, and because they always do that to their winning coaches in the past anyway.

(06-14-2011, 05:58 PM)Ryo Wrote:
(06-14-2011, 05:42 PM)Ca Rossonero Wrote: If Taiwo does get a french passport I believe we can re-register him....but the FIGC is expected to rule in favor of two nonEU spots.

But when is this FIGC ruling going to take place?

I thought that I read it somewhere that it is June 20.




RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - GeoTav - 06-14-2011

(06-14-2011, 05:55 PM)Gio-mania Wrote: The sale of Kakà was too good to be true, € 65 million for a player who has been injured for two seasons straight. Sheva too played far far below his standard after he left us, for € 40-45 million. Good business there too. But Sheva was 30 years anyway and Kakà was so prone to injury, although still had some "theoretical years in his prime" since he was just 27. Thiago Silva is turning 27 this fall, so as a central defender there are still good years left for him. Also he hasn't shown signs of losing his game, actually he is getting better and better, and he isn't really that injury prone. So we really need sick amounts of money to make this deal worthwhile.

Defenders are generally at their best between 27-28 (before, they lack some experience or lack some tactical knowledge or lack something) and 32-33 (after, they start losing physical abilities) ...

So Silva will keep improving for 2-3 years if everything's ok with injuries ... If we sell him, that means Galliani and co will have turned totally mad. That won't happen anyway and if this article about what he said had to be true, there would be a lot of other articles following to say "Silva shouldn't leave", "The reasons why Silva will leave before the end of this Summer ...", etc ...

About Taiwo, I think that even if he gets an EU passport, he will be considered as a non-EU transfer because the rule isn't about the number of non-EU in the team but the number of non-EU transfers allowed for each Italian team during a season. That means that if he was a non-EU player when he signed (or when he will sign), we'll have to hope that FIGC allows 2 non-EU transfers to the Serie A teams ...


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - Ryo - 06-14-2011

(06-14-2011, 06:23 PM)GeoTav Wrote:
(06-14-2011, 05:55 PM)Gio-mania Wrote: The sale of Kakà was too good to be true, € 65 million for a player who has been injured for two seasons straight. Sheva too played far far below his standard after he left us, for € 40-45 million. Good business there too. But Sheva was 30 years anyway and Kakà was so prone to injury, although still had some "theoretical years in his prime" since he was just 27. Thiago Silva is turning 27 this fall, so as a central defender there are still good years left for him. Also he hasn't shown signs of losing his game, actually he is getting better and better, and he isn't really that injury prone. So we really need sick amounts of money to make this deal worthwhile.

Defenders are generally at their best between 27-28 (before, they lack some experience or lack some tactical knowledge or lack something) and 32-33 (after, they start losing physical abilities) ...

So Silva will keep improving for 2-3 years if everything's ok with injuries ... If we sell him, that means Galliani and co will have turned totally mad. That won't happen anyway and if this article about what he said had to be true, there would be a lot of other articles following to say "Silva shouldn't leave", "The reasons why Silva will leave before the end of this Summer ...", etc ...

About Taiwo, I think that even if he gets an EU passport, he will be considered as a non-EU transfer because the rule isn't about the number of non-EU in the team but the number of non-EU transfers allowed for each Italian team during a season. That means that if he was a non-EU player when he signed (or when he will sign), we'll have to hope that FIGC allows 2 non-EU transfers to the Serie A teams ...

Then theres still hope since the Mercato hasn't officially opened yet and we only announce our signings on July 1st? Or is it because we've already announced it that we still need the second non-EU spot anyway?

By the way, Thiago's agent came out to say that the interview answers were distorted. Seriously, they'll do anything to sell papers, no matter which country.


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - xudong - 06-14-2011

(06-14-2011, 06:23 PM)GeoTav Wrote:
(06-14-2011, 05:55 PM)Gio-mania Wrote: The sale of Kakà was too good to be true, € 65 million for a player who has been injured for two seasons straight. Sheva too played far far below his standard after he left us, for € 40-45 million. Good business there too. But Sheva was 30 years anyway and Kakà was so prone to injury, although still had some "theoretical years in his prime" since he was just 27. Thiago Silva is turning 27 this fall, so as a central defender there are still good years left for him. Also he hasn't shown signs of losing his game, actually he is getting better and better, and he isn't really that injury prone. So we really need sick amounts of money to make this deal worthwhile.

Defenders are generally at their best between 27-28 (before, they lack some experience or lack some tactical knowledge or lack something) and 32-33 (after, they start losing physical abilities) ...

So Silva will keep improving for 2-3 years if everything's ok with injuries ... If we sell him, that means Galliani and co will have turned totally mad. That won't happen anyway and if this article about what he said had to be true, there would be a lot of other articles following to say "Silva shouldn't leave", "The reasons why Silva will leave before the end of this Summer ...", etc ...

About Taiwo, I think that even if he gets an EU passport, he will be considered as a non-EU transfer because the rule isn't about the number of non-EU in the team but the number of non-EU transfers allowed for each Italian team during a season. That means that if he was a non-EU player when he signed (or when he will sign), we'll have to hope that FIGC allows 2 non-EU transfers to the Serie A teams ...

On Taiwo, it is actually not about the time of transfer, it is about the time of registration. I heard that there is still hope for him to obtain his EU passport by June 29, but I don't know how big that chance is.


RE: Summer Mercato 2011 - WCmilan - 06-14-2011

seems like allegri really wants schweinsteiger according to milannews.. He's personally requested him, blue eyes, is he 183cm? iduno i think he might be our suprise signing and he probably wont be as much as fabregas