(06-21-2021, 02:40 PM)hwmook Wrote: Hakan is a known average midfielder who has been simply average for years. I am tired of seeing his plays. RDP has been good for a couple of season. Zaccagni has been great for 2 seasons at least. Hakan good for 6 months. Don't waste time on Hakan, he is just a very average player.

(06-21-2021, 03:44 PM)Sleeping Giant Wrote: Buy Pote for the CAM. 20M would be enough

(06-21-2021, 09:05 PM)Arildonardo Wrote: I didn't question his current salary, in PL they earn a lot. My point was that it would be madness for us to spend that kind of money on someone like him. He's been decent for his national team, but he's 29 and probably have one decent season at club level...

(06-21-2021, 09:18 PM)slifersd Wrote: I didn't say I expected those guys sold for a high price. What I expected the management to do was to know the temperature of the room and understand what the situations with the players are. No, there were no astronomical offers available for either player last year, but even selling those two for say 40m combined, which is very realistic, would've gone a long way in helping us in the FFP accounting. Instead, we kept them around and they walked away for free, and now we are in a even worse situation with FFP because we have to spend cash to sign their replacements. I can't imagine Donna or Hakan's demands were not known to management this time last year. If they thought those figures were excessive and they would never satisfy it, then yes, I would expect them to be sold, even if the offers are not astronomical. That is sound asset management. Bayern did that with Toni Kroos, Real is doing that now with Varane, just to use a couple of examples. 

I don't doubt the management are in a difficult situation with a lot of the players, but frankly speaking, that is what they are here for. Nobody said running Milan is a job so simple that any idiot can just do it. But just because it is difficult doesn't mean we should just quit trying to make better decisions. Fine, Hakan and donna can leave for free, but if we are going to make the same errors with Roma/Kessie by offering them contracts that are well below what they can get in the market and then expect them to eventually cave in and just sign, then we are going to be in the same shit hole this time next year.

(06-22-2021, 12:49 AM)devoted_dm Wrote: Another thing worth mentioning again is that we'd also have to pay these players' taxes, so the actual cost of giving Calhanoglu 6M per year would be around 12M per year. That is a lot of money for a talented, but inconsistent player nearing his late 20s.
Agreeing to a total cost of 30M for Calhanoglu over the course of three years, and probably a sizeable commission for his agent on top of that, is just kind of not worth it if you ask me. He's been an important player for us, but he's just not that good.

(06-22-2021, 01:08 AM)honsano Wrote: I mentioned this a few pages back, but there is no way we are going to save money by letting Hakan go and signing a new midfielder. The best hope we have is signing someone better to leave us some money to reinforce a CF. The numbers don’t add up otherwise. I image management saw this and figured they could get more bang for their buck securing other positions such as CF or RW by keeping an average Hakan. This deal probably held us back from those fronts.

Trying to be optimistic about all this and hoping management have some secrets up their sleeves. That and Saele and Benna take some real big steps up next season.

(06-21-2021, 05:38 PM)Inas Wrote: From their perspective, I don't think Inter "overpay". He's coming to replace Eriksen who is earning 10m or more. And when you remember Eriksen hadn't actually set San Siro on fire for Inter, you see that they may not miss Eriksen much, but are actually saving on wages.

(06-21-2021, 11:15 PM)nefremo Wrote: How is it a mistake? I don't get it...
So what's the suggestion? That we offer him this crazy 5M just so that he stays and doesn't leave for free???

Not sure why there is this thought that we can sign players on high contracts just to sell them later.
Have we every considered the fact that we may NOT be able to sell them later? Then what? We're stuck paying this big salary? Who would spend 25-30M on Hakan AND give him that 5M salary? Nobody!!! Nobody will! So if we gave him 5M, get prepared to watch him on the field for the remainder of that contract. You guys honestly want that? Based on what we've seen the past 4 years?

(06-22-2021, 06:06 AM)slifersd Wrote: Uh...reasonably sure Inter still has to pay Eriksen's wages. His contract is guaranteed.

(06-22-2021, 09:03 AM)slifersd Wrote: I am going to make a bold prediction here regarding Hakan's replacement. Our number one goal is going to be a loan deal for some big team's unwanted star, like a Ziyech. If that doesn't work out, we are going to resign Pessina, bring back Pobega and have those two compete with Brahim and Tonali to see who would start in that position. I don't know about you guys, but if it is Pessina/Pobega/Brahim/Tonali, I am actually kind of excited about it. Those guys are unproven but have talent and can make a giant leap if given the time and opportunity.

(06-22-2021, 06:06 AM)slifersd Wrote: Uh...reasonably sure Inter still has to pay Eriksen's wages. His contract is guaranteed.

(06-22-2021, 07:04 AM)slifersd Wrote: It is a mistake because management should have never allowed players to stay on the team when they have one year left on their contract and negotiations are not going anywhere.Yes, by the time you get to where we are at this point with Donna and Hakan, we are screwed. We either have to overpay for their services, and potentially risk not being able to get rid of them down the road, or we have to let them walk for free. It is really a lose lose situation for us. That is why management should have the foresight to make the right moves last offseason and get rid of those two. If I recall correctly, since we came off a really strong second half of the season, both guys' value were fairly high and we could've at least recover some money from their sales.