(05-17-2011, 07:55 PM)Kastriot Wrote: From a business and economical perspective Galliani has played his cards perfectly. He basically made the old champions "beg" for a contract. He signed with MVbommel and clearly gave a signal to seedorf and pirlo that either you will come to my terms or its goodbye. Ambrosini is clear stay since he will accept anything that will be offered (great character btw) which puts huge pressure on Gattuso to sign a pay cut or leave.
Tiago Silva and Mexes signing also were signs for Nesta (although he accepted a pay cut since months ago).

Not that I approve this kind of behavior towards individuals who have give us so much,but a GM does what is supposed to do...and Galliani has risen above all in this situation.Bravo.

(05-17-2011, 07:55 PM)Kastriot Wrote: From a business and economical perspective Galliani has played his cards perfectly. He basically made the old champions "beg" for a contract. He signed with MVbommel and clearly gave a signal to seedorf and pirlo that either you will come to my terms or its goodbye. Ambrosini is clear stay since he will accept anything that will be offered (great character btw) which puts huge pressure on Gattuso to sign a pay cut or leave.
Tiago Silva and Mexes signing also were signs for Nesta (although he accepted a pay cut since months ago).

Not that I approve this kind of behavior towards individuals who have give us so much,but a GM does what is supposed to do...and Galliani has risen above all in this situation.Bravo.

(05-17-2011, 05:49 PM)brasileiro Wrote:

(05-17-2011, 05:17 AM)WCmilan Wrote: After a not so good performance from Lamela against Boca i still think he will out do Ganso.. First off neither him nor Ganso have proven themselves in Europe, so the only things we can really look at is raw talent, if we speak of talent between the two with the two year age difference as well where 19-21 is also a big space for improvement like how Pato put on great muscle gains, we must look at these when considering who to buy. I think neither one of them will be able to have a noteable impact when they are first brought in, regardless a season or two it will take for them to mould into the team and be more developed/get used to our and seria A's style of play. This is why I think Lamela is the better option , bring him in for cheaper so we can buy a direct starting CAM, like Honda or Hernanes, proved themselves either in world cup or Seria a in hernanes case and consistency through out is good enough to proove worthy of Milan. Ganso and Lamela we can't call more then prospects, they wont have a direct impact on milan .. Kaka was also a prospect when he joined us, but he earned a place in our starting line up and we also had other CAM options to rotate with him. This is why I think it would be smart, once they mould into the team our temporary CAM whether Hernanes/Hamsik/Honda any of those players have the versatility for a midfield role whether it be LCM/RCM/CM can be moved there after.

Fair enough(but the bold part), Wcmilan.

Back to the bold part... This proven themselves in Europe is the most overrated(and clueless) factor in transfer that I ever saw. By your values, you would buy Gila or Suazo over Pato, right? Mariga or Melo over Hernanes, right? And I´m just using a few Serie A to Serie A transfers to make a point...

I can´t agree that transfers is an exact science, and to use the "proven in Europe" as argument is only good for European Clubs decrease the prices. Or pure prejudice...

If Milan doctors find something in Gansos knees that worries them, all right. But you don´t pass on an estabilished player at Brazil and South America to buy a project. Ganso is carrying a big team in Brazil to titles for two years in a row. A few weeks back, with a Santos team depleted, he was the man of the macth in a victory away from home(against the group leader) and that only a win would kept Santos at Libertadores da America(our Champions League).

By your posts, I know that you don´t rate Libertadores our Brazilian championship, but for every player you bring here, I can point an Europe to Europe flop. Hard work, character, play style and the ability "to le ad a big team in Brazil or Argentine" imo are much better player traits to look for, than this proven in Europe argument. But it´s your opinion anyway...

Btw, you talk about Lamela like if he will cost less than 5 millions. If thats the price, I can understand the gamble. But 10+ million isn´t banana´s money for Milan nowadays...

(05-17-2011, 09:24 PM)Hasan Rossonero Wrote: Seedorf: 'I don't know if I'll stay'


Clarence Seedorf had a meeting with Milan today, but admits “I don’t know if I will stay next season.”

The Dutchman’s contract expires on June 30 and he has several offers from overseas, including Brazilian sides Botafogo and Corinthians.

“Today’s meeting went well,” he said after talks with Vice-President Adriano Galliani.

“I don’t know if I will stay at Milan next season, but it was a very friendly meeting and we’ll talk again next week. We want to end the season with a victory against Udinese first, then we’ll discuss it.”

Some have already put pen to paper, as this evening it was announced that Thiago Silva, Mark Van Bommel and third choice goalkeeper Flavio Roma all signed new contracts.

“My rapport with Milan will be good, even if we no longer work together. After all, we have always got along well, as President Silvio Berlusconi and Galliani expressed words of affection towards me.”

This week Botafogo publicly declared their interest in signing Seedorf, whose wife is Brazilian.

“I have not met with any Botafogo directors personally. Maybe someone else did on my behalf.”

football-italia

(05-17-2011, 08:00 AM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Conspiracy theory. Milan agree to send out its strongest team to beat Udinese in the final game, which allow Lazio to get into CL. In return, Lazio will need to sell Hernanes to Milan.

(05-17-2011, 09:01 PM)WCmilan Wrote:

(05-17-2011, 05:49 PM)brasileiro Wrote: Fair enough(but the bold part), Wcmilan.

Back to the bold part... This proven themselves in Europe is the most overrated(and clueless) factor in transfer that I ever saw. By your values, you would buy Gila or Suazo over Pato, right? Mariga or Melo over Hernanes, right? And I´m just using a few Serie A to Serie A transfers to make a point...

I can´t agree that transfers is an exact science, and to use the "proven in Europe" as argument is only good for European Clubs decrease the prices. Or pure prejudice...

If Milan doctors find something in Gansos knees that worries them, all right. But you don´t pass on an estabilished player at Brazil and South America to buy a project. Ganso is carrying a big team in Brazil to titles for two years in a row. A few weeks back, with a Santos team depleted, he was the man of the macth in a victory away from home(against the group leader) and that only a win would kept Santos at Libertadores da America(our Champions League).

By your posts, I know that you don´t rate Libertadores our Brazilian championship, but for every player you bring here, I can point an Europe to Europe flop. Hard work, character, play style and the ability "to le ad a big team in Brazil or Argentine" imo are much better player traits to look for, than this proven in Europe argument. But it´s your opinion anyway...

Btw, you talk about Lamela like if he will cost less than 5 millions. If thats the price, I can understand the gamble. But 10+ million isn´t banana´s money for Milan nowadays...

I said that if we look at their raw talent I think Lamela will turn out to a better player then Ganso, I didn't mean in that way I'd want Suazo or Gila over Pato, how did you get that from my post?They've proven to be not so good in Seria A nor the European stage..

Quote:And i have nothing against brazilian football or their players, if we were talking about Neymar coming to Milan i would choose him over any talent in the world other then messi