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RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Jay Crisp - 01-03-2012
You too should watch more EPL outside the top 6 the teams collapsed against Chelsea Utd Arsenal from 02-08 it's a bit better now , more than 60% of Lampards goals in each of his 20 goal seasons were penaltys or came against teams that were already 3 or 4 goals down....you can't ignore that fact either I'm not saying he was an overrated player just not better than Seedorf in his prime.
Also in his best years in EPL 03-08 his goals tally was
02/03 6 goals 8 in all competition 48 games
03/04 10 goals 15 in all competition 56 games
04/05 13 goals. 19 in all competition 58 games
05/06. 16 goals 20 in all competition 51 games
06/07. 11 games 21 in all competition 63 games
07/08. 10 goals 20 in all competition. 40 games
So in his prime yes he hit 20 goals in all competitions the EPL he got 20 goals once in 09/10 but not for 5 seasons in a row in the EPL as you said no he didn't , I Do watch EPL I'm Irish its shoved down our throats , I admire him better than Gerrard but if Seedorf took every penalty for almost a decade he too would have as many goals if not more.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Gabriel426 - 01-03-2012
Slowdorf was never the main man for his team while Lampard was. That's the diff between them.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Jay Crisp - 01-03-2012
Lampard hasn't won anything like this , 3 titles and 3 FA cups is what he has.
Seedorf.
Ajax
Eredivisie (2)
KNVB Cup (1)
Johan Cruijff-schaal (2)
UEFA Champions League (1)
Real Madrid
La Liga (1)
Supercopa de España (1)
UEFA Champions League (1)
Intercontinental Cup (1)
Milan
Serie A (2)
Coppa Italia (1)
Supercoppa Italiana (2)
UEFA Champions League (2)
UEFA Super Cup (2)
FIFA Club World Cup (1)
Also Lampard got abused by his own fan's club and country very unfairly IMO , and English pundit's and media because he never turned up in the big games.He's a great man to get a hat trick against Fulham but against the best at club and International level alway's had poor performances.
If he had played with Milan or Madrid his trophy cabinet may be more impressive , but then again I'm not convinced he would of played much for those Milan or Madrid teams .
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Nalx - 01-03-2012
(01-03-2012, 05:03 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Slowdorf was never the main man for his team while Lampard was. That's the diff between them.
Lampard was great. He's among the first players Mou picked when choosing a line-up. He had a good tactical sense and was so fit that he broke the record, I don't remember how many hundreds, for playing consecutive games. The former record holder was a GK. Lampard is a midfielder, the position that runs the most. That's really a remarkable achievement.
But like Hitman with Pato, sometimes I think you're kind of blinded by your hatred toward Seedorf if not to objectively recognize his achievement, at least to give credit where it's due.
Never the main man? Well the definition of "main man" is obscure and pretty subjective but if you check out his statistics you'll find that on each of the 4 CL he won in three clubs he mostly played as starter, not as some lucky free-rider who happened to be in a club at the right time.
All along his lengthy career, as a teenager he was the first choice for Louis van Gaal, won Eredivisie and CL, then La Liga under Capello, two coaches who are not known for their sentimentality. He added one CL under del Bosque then another two under Carletto, in 2003 as an attacking left-midfielder, then on crucial stages in 2007 as one of the double treq with Kaka.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Beppe - 01-03-2012
Seedorf >>>>> Lampard BIG TIME.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - WCmilan - 01-03-2012
beppe i second that and not just because im a milan fan lampard isnt that good
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - HO-YOUNG - 01-03-2012
(01-03-2012, 05:54 PM)Nalx Wrote:(01-03-2012, 05:03 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Slowdorf was never the main man for his team while Lampard was. That's the diff between them.
Lampard was great.
Lampard and great must not be used in the same sentence!!!
Great is reserved for the likes of Maldini, Maradona, Pele, THE Ronaldo...
Lampard, Peter Crooch, Bonera, are in a group called etcetera.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - xudong - 01-03-2012
(01-03-2012, 05:54 PM)Nalx Wrote:(01-03-2012, 05:03 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: Slowdorf was never the main man for his team while Lampard was. That's the diff between them.
Lampard was great. He's among the first players Mou picked when choosing a line-up. He had a good tactical sense and was so fit that he broke the record, I don't remember how many hundreds, for playing consecutive games. The former record holder was a GK. Lampard is a midfielder, the position that runs the most. That's really a remarkable achievement.
But like Hitman with Pato, sometimes I think you're kind of blinded by your hatred toward Seedorf if not to objectively recognize his achievement, at least to give credit where it's due.
Never the main man? Well the definition of "main man" is obscure and pretty subjective but if you check out his statistics you'll find that on each of the 4 CL he won in three clubs he mostly played as starter, not as some lucky free-rider who happened to be in a club at the right time.
All along his lengthy career, as a teenager he was the first choice for Louis van Gaal, won Eredivisie and CL, then La Liga under Capello, two coaches who are not known for their sentimentality. He added one CL under del Bosque then another two under Carletto, in 2003 as an attacking left-midfielder, then on crucial stages in 2007 as one of the double treq with Kaka.
You took the words out of my mouth.
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - Warro Bantan - 01-04-2012
Why all this back and forth over Lampard? Is there a rumor that we r gonna buy him?
Seriously?
RE: Winter Mercato 11'/12' - xudong - 01-04-2012
not at all. it is just zeekay's man crush on him.
