08-22-2011, 03:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-22-2011, 03:21 PM by Gabriel426.)
Can't believe some of you are giving credits t Galli for spotting cheap and free players. Did guys like Emerson, RO, Legro, Mattioni, Dilac, Hunter, Viduc and Cardacio even play a huge role for Milan. As for Aqua, he played for Juve last season and some of you stated he played well. Question 1. Juve was pretty crap last year and and not like Aqua led Juve for a better record, honestly think he can do betterin Milan? Q2. Juve bought two midfielders who plays in the same spot as Aqua and Pirlo, one for free and the other is about 10mil while they can't come to an agreement with Pool about Aqua for 12mil. Which means Aqua did not convince People at Juve to spend 2 mil more on him(10 for Vidal), despite some of you claiming he did well RO solid with them last year. Q3. What's the point loaning out Merkel and getting Aqua for the bench?
Really can't believe some of you are happy about this Aqua signing as I think this is a panic buy from the MGT to quiet the fans rather than a thought out plan to get the team what they need.
As for the team better than last year. Honestly I really don't think the starting Eleven is better than last year, if anything they might be worse due to Nesta, MVB, Gattuso, Slowdorf being a year older. Taiwo is a beast and Mexes adds depth.
Real signed Conteano due to their lack of width option while Sahin and Atimtop both add depth to their mid as JM does not wan to play Diarra and Gago. Overall, I think Real signings made more sense than Barca. As for their finance issue, as long as they own their stadiums and have players who can draw a huge followings, they will always
be a better shape than Milan. Maybe some of you are happy that Milan is more financially responsible....but it is like someone from a small town saying they are porud to have fresher milk than those living in the city, while people living in the city got more luxuries. Since I doubt any of you would rather have the combination of Aqua, Mexes, Taiwo and El sharraay than Hernanes, D Luiz, Contenao and Bastian.
Lastly, Milan is in a financial difficult position but that did not happen over night. Berlu is the owner of Milan for over 25 yrs and he is also one of the most powerful man in Italy. I refuse to believe that a man of his statue did not foresee the benefits of having a Stadium over all these years, yet he did nothing about it. Secondly, then there is the marketing issue and truly making Milan into a world wide brand like Real, Brca and ManU, an example of a missed opportunity is not having an Asian tour this f summer since they are playing in Beijing for the Super Cup. Thirdly cheap players, panic buys and bargin players as well as giving out huge contracts to existing players despite them being crap. Whose to blame but themselves on that. If you look back whenever Milan spend big, for a player over the past 10 yrs, they are never
bust except for Gila. Sheva, Rui Costa, Nesta, Pippo, Ibra, and Robinho, they all played an important roles for Milan. Let's use Ibra as an example, he costs Milan 24 mil, discount price due to his wage.
Yet due to Ibra, Milan does not need to look for another striker this season, as Milan finanlly got two
really good CF, something that they did not have since Sheva left. Let's say he plays for 4 great years in Milan. His true cost would be the 24mil plus 9mil extra wage per season, since Hunter wage was about 11 mil a year plus tax and his is about 20mil plus tax. Thus Ibra would have cost 60mil over 4 yrs. Now the transfer fees for RO, Ronaldo, Hunter, Sheva and Borri cost more than that. Of course The sale of Hunter, Borri and RO got Milan some money too but Milan payed for their wages even if they were not playing. Point is, spending money wisely is more important than spending them cheap on panic buys. If someone if worth the money meaning he will raise the level of the team then he is worth every penny. It is better to spend say 30 mil on Hernanes than 10mil on Aqua, since Hernanes will probably improve the team while Aqua might not.
I agree with you completely. Except for the Berlu sacrificing part, since he has the option to sell. This is where I don't understand, if this business is losing money and you can't afford it, why don't you sell it.
I think Milan will most likely dominate Serie A for the next couple of years, given that Real will not come in with 50mil to buy Silva next summer and PSG with their 60mil on Pato. Since we know for sure those money will end up balancing the book instead of reinvesting the squad.
As for CL, for the first time I think Milan will get knock out in group stage due to Milan being in Pot 2 , thus they must play a top team in the group stage while they might also need to face City in the same group. Mark my words, Milan will be in the same group of City along wi either Real or Barca.
Really can't believe some of you are happy about this Aqua signing as I think this is a panic buy from the MGT to quiet the fans rather than a thought out plan to get the team what they need.
As for the team better than last year. Honestly I really don't think the starting Eleven is better than last year, if anything they might be worse due to Nesta, MVB, Gattuso, Slowdorf being a year older. Taiwo is a beast and Mexes adds depth.
Real signed Conteano due to their lack of width option while Sahin and Atimtop both add depth to their mid as JM does not wan to play Diarra and Gago. Overall, I think Real signings made more sense than Barca. As for their finance issue, as long as they own their stadiums and have players who can draw a huge followings, they will always
be a better shape than Milan. Maybe some of you are happy that Milan is more financially responsible....but it is like someone from a small town saying they are porud to have fresher milk than those living in the city, while people living in the city got more luxuries. Since I doubt any of you would rather have the combination of Aqua, Mexes, Taiwo and El sharraay than Hernanes, D Luiz, Contenao and Bastian.
Lastly, Milan is in a financial difficult position but that did not happen over night. Berlu is the owner of Milan for over 25 yrs and he is also one of the most powerful man in Italy. I refuse to believe that a man of his statue did not foresee the benefits of having a Stadium over all these years, yet he did nothing about it. Secondly, then there is the marketing issue and truly making Milan into a world wide brand like Real, Brca and ManU, an example of a missed opportunity is not having an Asian tour this f summer since they are playing in Beijing for the Super Cup. Thirdly cheap players, panic buys and bargin players as well as giving out huge contracts to existing players despite them being crap. Whose to blame but themselves on that. If you look back whenever Milan spend big, for a player over the past 10 yrs, they are never
bust except for Gila. Sheva, Rui Costa, Nesta, Pippo, Ibra, and Robinho, they all played an important roles for Milan. Let's use Ibra as an example, he costs Milan 24 mil, discount price due to his wage.
Yet due to Ibra, Milan does not need to look for another striker this season, as Milan finanlly got two
really good CF, something that they did not have since Sheva left. Let's say he plays for 4 great years in Milan. His true cost would be the 24mil plus 9mil extra wage per season, since Hunter wage was about 11 mil a year plus tax and his is about 20mil plus tax. Thus Ibra would have cost 60mil over 4 yrs. Now the transfer fees for RO, Ronaldo, Hunter, Sheva and Borri cost more than that. Of course The sale of Hunter, Borri and RO got Milan some money too but Milan payed for their wages even if they were not playing. Point is, spending money wisely is more important than spending them cheap on panic buys. If someone if worth the money meaning he will raise the level of the team then he is worth every penny. It is better to spend say 30 mil on Hernanes than 10mil on Aqua, since Hernanes will probably improve the team while Aqua might not.
(08-22-2011, 02:41 PM)ElMago99 Wrote: For those of you who misunderstand the Tax System on football players in Italy, it's a 50% tax bracket. So what that means is that Kaka's salary per year is €20 Million. 50% of that goes to taxes ( €10 Million ). So AC Milan has to pay higher salary's to it's players because of the high taxes, in order to compete with other countries clubs. The current situation in the world (particularly Europe) is so awful that governments know nothing else but to print money and tax innocent people. Now football players are by no means innocent as they make fortunes, but it affects the clubs greatly. Berlusconi can now show the world that he's sacrificing his club to show the need for higher taxes. The whole thing is so perverse and disgusting, but my opinion, based off of my research is that AC Milan will not ever come back to it's spending ways as the political/economic situation is so bad, I can't see them bouncing back any time this Decade.
Expect signings like Acquilani and Montolivo, and low wages. Maybe 1 or 2 stars on the team but definitely not 4-5. The squad is very good to win Serie A, but Juventus and AS Roma are a lot better. Champions League impossible to get to even Quarterfinals with this squad but I will support them nonetheless. I guarantee no new big signings will occur
for years.....
I agree with you completely. Except for the Berlu sacrificing part, since he has the option to sell. This is where I don't understand, if this business is losing money and you can't afford it, why don't you sell it.
I think Milan will most likely dominate Serie A for the next couple of years, given that Real will not come in with 50mil to buy Silva next summer and PSG with their 60mil on Pato. Since we know for sure those money will end up balancing the book instead of reinvesting the squad.
As for CL, for the first time I think Milan will get knock out in group stage due to Milan being in Pot 2 , thus they must play a top team in the group stage while they might also need to face City in the same group. Mark my words, Milan will be in the same group of City along wi either Real or Barca.