AC Milan Forums - Unofficial
Summer mercato 2012 - Printable Version

+- AC Milan Forums - Unofficial (https://www.milanmania.com/forum)
+-- Forum: AC MILAN (https://www.milanmania.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Forum: Transfers (https://www.milanmania.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=10)
+--- Thread: Summer mercato 2012 (/showthread.php?tid=223)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - ACMILAN1983 - 06-27-2012

Not a lot of news today, actually very little. A few things though:

Yesterday, I don't think it was mentioned, but Pato essentially said he's a fan of English football, has friends in England at Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U. Apparently at the moment he's got a "taste" for English football given the London Olympics. He's also said he intends to see out his contract until 2014 after the club showed faith in him and then there's no telling what will happen. I know many wouldn't mind Pato being sold this summer, but I think he deserves credit. When he speaks of intentions he only says he intends to see out his contract rather than saying he hopes to stay at Milan forever and be like Maldini and Baresi. I appreciate the honesty rather than BS statements.

CDS says Sheva's pushing Yarmalenko to Milan, while Tuttosport claims we're still pushing for Balzaretti.

El Shaarawy was interviewed and hopes to play more next season after doing well this season, while he also hopes he can play with Kaka in Milan one day.

Muntari has commented on his injury, saying it was on a normal pitch and a freak accident and that while Galliani is right to be angry, it has been confirmed the club will wait for him and he will accept the punishments (i.e. lower wage and maybe a fine).

Finally, Mudingayi has confirmed Milan and Inter are both after him. Good player, but a squad player, not a starter imo.


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - dejo - 06-27-2012

(06-26-2012, 03:55 PM)Gabriel426 Wrote: I think the key here is that Milan can do without Flamini.

I don't think so. He is probably the best pure right midfielder on the market. Also he can play all midfield positions (ok he can't play am) and side back positions in defense. He is very versatile and I am glad that he managed to agree on his contract terms.

Also he can easily score, and in my opinion (Stitch Big Grin ) when healthy and motivated he is better than Boateng...


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - Stitch - 06-27-2012

See, we have a disagreement on your first post here in a while Big Grin

Flamini was good 4-5 years ago. During his time here he showed nothing but foul play, earning numerous cards whenever he plays. He got a good contract based on his last year at Arsenal, and did nothing to show that he really earned it.

And I certainly hope that comparsion with Boateng was a joke Big Grin


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - dejo - 06-27-2012

(06-27-2012, 05:37 PM)Stitch Wrote: See, we have a disagreement on your first post here in a while Big Grin

Flamini was good 4-5 years ago. During his time here he showed nothing but foul play, earning numerous cards whenever he plays. He got a good contract based on his last year at Arsenal, and did nothing to show that he really earned it.

And I certainly hope that comparsion with Boateng was a joke Big Grin

Actually it wasn't..just look at Boateng's last season only 11 matches and I believe 4 goals in all competitons (3 against Lecce and 1 against Arsenal), so by looking his whole career it seems he has potential of becoming injury prone player who can't put out two good seasons in a row...this isn't my firm opinion it just comes to my mind now and then


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - ACM2023 - 06-27-2012

(06-27-2012, 06:16 PM)dejo Wrote:
(06-27-2012, 05:37 PM)Stitch Wrote: See, we have a disagreement on your first post here in a while Big Grin

Flamini was good 4-5 years ago. During his time here he showed nothing but foul play, earning numerous cards whenever he plays. He got a good contract based on his last year at Arsenal, and did nothing to show that he really earned it.

And I certainly hope that comparsion with Boateng was a joke Big Grin

Actually it wasn't..just look at Boateng's last season only 11 matches and I believe 4 goals in all competitons (3 against Lecce and 1 against Arsenal), so by looking his whole career it seems he has potential of becoming injury prone player who can't put out two good seasons in a row...this isn't my firm opinion it just comes to my mind now and then

No offense, but that number about Boateng is so horribly wrong. I can remember at least two more goals in Champions League, both fantastic by the way, and in Serie A, didn't he at least score against Genoa also?


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - dejo - 06-27-2012

(06-27-2012, 06:27 PM)xudong Wrote:
(06-27-2012, 06:16 PM)dejo Wrote: Actually it wasn't..just look at Boateng's last season only 11 matches and I believe 4 goals in all competitons (3 against Lecce and 1 against Arsenal), so by looking his whole career it seems he has potential of becoming injury prone player who can't put out two good seasons in a row...this isn't my firm opinion it just comes to my mind now and then

No offense, but that number about Boateng is so horribly wrong. I can remember at least two more goals in Champions League, both fantastic by the way, and in Serie A, didn't he at least score against Genoa also?

My mistake he played 19 matches in serie a scoring 5 goals, he also added one in coppa Italia and 3 more in CL..still he had less impact on the field compared to what he did in 2010/11 season

And I do believe that there is a strong possibility of him becoming injury prone player


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - ACM2023 - 06-27-2012

OK then. Smile Boateng does worry me with his tendency to get injured at such a young age, but I don't agree with you "less impact" comment. Despite his frequent absences, I feel that he had established himself a status only slightly below Thiago Silva and Ibrahimovic. That seems quite evident from the way that Allegri used him (e.g. "saving" him for the big games in the season).

Anyway, I don't think it is appropriate to compare Flamini to Boateng yet. He has made no or little contribution in his four years with Milan, and also refused to play LB when the coach asked him to. Last season, he was out for 32 weeks. Unlucky, yes, but again, no contribution. The goal against Novara was nice but meant nothing in real.

Now that he stays, I hope that he redeems himself and be useful. He does have some good quality that may benefit the team, and I am hoping that we resigned him because of Allegri not just because of Galliani. One year contract extension is not bad at all, particularly at a much reduced salary. But he still has to prove himself, something that he failed to do in the past four long seasons.



RE: Summer mercato 2012 - dejo - 06-27-2012

My post about Flamini was that when healthy and motivated he is better then Boateng and I stay behind my words. I remember his Arsenal days when he was fully prepared and motivated he was one of the most dominant players in the midfield in the world. Boateng never played on that high level and probably he never will. Why Flamini didn't played in Milan as he played in Arsenal is a mistery to me, but I would like to see him play for black and red as he played for the Gunners.




RE: Summer mercato 2012 - Gabriel426 - 06-27-2012

You are comparing Flamini five yrs ago to Boateng over the past two yrs. I saw Flamini as a really good DM or CM back in Arsenal and was great that he came to Milan. But even when he was not injured, he had pretty much sucked playing in Milan, however, he did done well at RB when Beckham was around. Boateng on the other hand is a physical beast and when healthy is a top notch CM in the world. I really can't see the logic that Boateng is not a better player nor will he be a greater player than Flamini, as when you take both of their best year; last yr at Arsenal for Flamini and 1st yr in MIlan for Boateng, I still see Boateng being a better player and contributed more for their respectable team.
Thats my opinion.


RE: Summer mercato 2012 - ACM2023 - 06-27-2012

@dejo:

I still don't agree with you regarding Boateng, but let's agree to disagree. Smile

Regarding Flamini, I respect your opinion, partly because that I am hoping that you will be right, and also that oddly enough, in the past four seasons he never seemed to have a chance to prove himself. I am not saying that it is not his fault, but Ancelotti didn't seem to trust him very much, and he was very unlucky to get injured a lot of times under Allegri too.

My main problem with him was that he didn't/couldn't take advantage of the chances like others did (e.g. Nocerino); he came with high expectation and couldn't live up to it; he refused to play LB as Ancelotti tried to ask him to; he seems to have a reputation of enjoying high pay and high pay only (that is gonna change of course); he commits reckless fouls and harms the team, etc.

Now he is staying, I have no choice but to trust him and hope that he will deliver. He will have to, if he still wants to renew his contract after one year. Smile

Also, I just realized that Flamini is already 28. It is certainly an age to achieve something or be tossed to oblivion. I hope he makes it.